Talk:Tolkien's impact on fantasy

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Text in this article has been selected from recently-edited materials that were at History of fantasy, now deleted from there per consensus; see the history there for attribution. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:05, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Chiswick Chap, I don’t know how to give a feedback on Wiki, so I decided to do it here: There have been many other fantasy novels before. Take china for an example; they had fantasy novels since hundreds of years ago. A famous example is the book “Journey to the West“, which was written hundreds of years ago. I encourage you to change that in your article!

Cheers

Someone, who got really frustrated while choosing a name for wiki… Why is almost every possible name taken?! (talk) 20:43, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sry, no comma after someone ;) Why is almost every possible name taken?! (talk) 20:45, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. In the West also, there were many works that could be considered "fantastic", well-known texts including Beowulf alongside many lesser ones. The point is that this article is explicitly NOT a history of fantasy from the beginning of culture, but about the impact that T. had on fantasy (from his time onwards). Hope this helps. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:49, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Mythopoeia" section[edit]

Under fantasy mythological pantheons which could have given Tolkien ideas, it should probably mention The Gods of Pegana by Lord Dunsany, which was published just as Tolkien became a teenager... AnonMoos (talk) 23:10, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is not meant to overlap with Influences on J. R. R. Tolkien or its subsidiaries like Tolkien's modern sources - they're about input, this is about output. ~~On Dunsany, Tolkien mentioned disliking The Worm Ouroboros;~~ I don't recall anyone reliably discussing the effect of Pegana on Tolkien, but if they did, Tolkien's modern sources would be the place. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:15, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, but ER Eddison wrote the Worm Ouroboros, not Lord Dunsany. Lord Dunsany was the rising young UK fantasy writer when Tolkien was a teen (at a time when there wasn't room for very many commercially successful-writers specializing in fantasy), and definitely mythologically inclined, especially in his earlier works... AnonMoos (talk) 17:24, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]