Talk:Tomo Miličević

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Did you know... that Sarajevo-born musician Tomo Miličević emigrated to the United States and played in a number of local bands, including Morphic, before joining Thirty Seconds to Mars?

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Can someone familiar with IPA fix the pronounciation please? -Defunctzombie 03:54, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Admiral Norton ^(talk) 15:58, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.177.186.213 (talk) 22:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

well, he wouldn't be fighting in the trenches by his 17th because the war in Bosnia ended in 1995. i know that this basically is not a mistake in the article because it is quoted from an interview, but the statement is plainly wrong, most likely said in an attempt to dramaticize. the war ended with Dayton Peace Agreement signed on November 21, 1995.

Birthplace[edit]

Tomo's birth place is a fact with many discrepancies. A diffinitive source needs to be found. In one article, he states that he was born in Sarajevo, Croatia, so to say that he was born in Bosnia is not proper. However, I cannot find a reputable secondary source to back up the fact that he was born in Croatia, and there are many sites that have copied the (false?) information that he was born in Bosnia. tjbw (talk) 02:21, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bosnia and Herzegovina is a country of 3 constitutive nations.Croats are one of them.Tomo is a Croat from Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Please change the name of the band[edit]

The band should be referenced as THIRTY SECONDS TO MARS throughout the Wiki page; "30" should be replaced with "THIRTY". To do your own search please use the following link and type in THIRTY SECONDS TO MARS in the trademark search http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4809:jv6iqh.1.1 [9] In case the link is dead when you click on it, and you have not done a search please see below. Below is a copy and paste of Trademarks > Trademark Electronic Search System (TESS) Word Mark THIRTY SECONDS TO MARS Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: A series of sound recordings and downloadable sound recordings featuring music; DVDs, audiovisual recordings and downloadable audiovisual recordings featuring music and musical performances; downloadable ring tones, graphics and music via the internet and wireless devices. FIRST USE: 20020827. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20020827 IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S: Posters; printed materials in the nature of stickers. FIRST USE: 19980000. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19980000 IC 025. US 022 039. G & S: Clothing, namely, t-shirts, sweatshirts, shirts; wristbands. FIRST USE: 19980000. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19980000 IC 038. US 100 101 104. G & S: Streaming of audio and visual recordings featuring music and musical based entertainment over a global computer network; providing online chatrooms and bulletin boards for transmission of messages among users in the field of music, entertainment, recording artists, music artists, popular culture. FIRST USE: 20010412. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20010412 IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment services, namely, providing entertainment information regarding a musical group, namely, performances, recordings, appearances, biographies, and photographs via a website on a global computer network. FIRST USE: 20010523. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20010523 Word Mark THIRTY SECONDS TO MARS Standard Characters Claimed Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK Trademark Search Facility Classification Code NUM-26-UP 30 Other Numerals - 26 and Up Serial Number 77780981 Filing Date July 14, 2009 Current Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1A Published for Opposition November 24, 2009 Registration Number 3746782 Registration Date February 9, 2010 Owner (REGISTRANT) Leto, Jared INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 10990 Wilshire Blvd., 8th Floor c/o Wasserman, Grossman & Sloan, LLP Los Angeles CALIFORNIA 90024 Attorney of Record Lawrence E. Apolzon Prior Registrations 2560251 Type of Mark TRADEMARK. SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noyes388 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Tomo Miličević/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk · contribs) 15:35, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Review[edit]

~~Hi, I'm starting this review. It may take some time but it should be done by the end of the day!~~ Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:35, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

This article is fairly close to passing GA criteria, but there are a few issues with the sources.

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
"the album received multiple certifications all over the world" -sounds weird to me. I think "certifications" should be "awards," but I'm not sure if "certifications" is a more specific term for rock music.
It refers to music recording sales certification.

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

I'd like to see the references consistently formatted, but it's not required.

The two sections are formatted according to WP:SRF, organized into online and print sources.

The melodic.net source is cited that their second album is called "A Beautiful Lie." The source only mentions their album "The Battle of One." The allmusic.com source does mentioned that "A Beautiful Lie" is their second album, so you could replace the citation with that source.

The Battle of One was the working title of the album. That source indicates the period the band returned to the studio.

The allmusic.com source doesn't mention them performing at the Rock em Ring music festival.

Fixed.

The sxsw source does mentioned that Milicevic was a "guest musician" with Ivy Levan, but not that he "wrote and produced a number of tracks."

Fixed.

The Chicago Music Guide source is broken now--maybe there's an archived copy?

Added an archived copy.

The mTV source doesn't mentioned that Milicevic experimented with the different styles and instruments. This information is in the lead as well.

Sourced.

The source for Milicevic's wedding doesn't mention the date.

His imdb profile mentions that, but I could not find a reliable source.

The source for Milicevic's being a vegan has an incorrect URL.

Fixed.

I didn't check the print sources, but if you'd like me to, I have access to at least one of them here in the BYU library.

You can do it if you want to.

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
On hold for 7 days.

Please ping me when/if you edit the article to address those issues! Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:16, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rachel Helps (BYU), please look at my responses to your points and let me know if you have any further concerns. Miličević's brother, Filip, recently died, should we mention this in the article? The only reliable source I found is a Tomo's post on facebook.--Earthh (talk) 19:03, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for explaining the shortened footnotes to me. I changed the sentence about their wedding to not include the date, since I couldn't find a source for it either. I think it passes GA criteria now. I'm not sure if citing Facebook for Filip's death is in line with WP:SOCIALMEDIA--I think that since it involves a third party (Filip), the information requires a news source.Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:39, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your review.--Earthh (talk) 17:11, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]