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How you found out this stuff?

Yeah, can somebody cite some sources for this stuff?! Doobuzz 17:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Um, there IS a source ([1]) and it has been there ever since the page was started. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 18:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Se7en[edit]

I have comcast, and in it's description of the episode it says that the "Heck-House" segment is a reference to the movie Se7en. Personally, I disagree, but I figured I should at least put it out there to see what everyone else thinks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.248.127 (talk) 20:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the change to the reference to the film Se7en is not right. It is a reference to the film Seven Footprints to Satan and there is also a footnote to a book, which was not deleted, that could prove this intepretation. (Histofreak (talk) 23:41, 6 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Can I add that "In not a parody of Seven..." is a particularly insipid phrase.PacificBoy 19:54, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kodos[edit]

I know Kodos was referred to as a girl in another Treehouse of Horror. So when going to edit I notice the little note that she was referred to as a male in this edition. I don't recall this as I have only seen the episode once. Could someone please provide a reference? ::Manors:: talk to me 18:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've only seen the episode once, so I can't give you specifics, but I was listening for just that thing (because there has been a lot of debate about it) and in one scene, Bart DOES refer to Kodos as him. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 18:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's either a continuity error, or (more likely) the Treehouse episodes don't have any continuity, Kodos was referred to as female in the first Treehouse of Horror. Digifiend (talk) 14:03, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vote[edit]

Okay, let's do this the proper way

The issue: A user continually adds a reference to a little-known line in a little-known show with absolutely no proof or sources to prove it is being referenced. This goes against the WP:NOR and WP:RS policies. The statement has been removed by four editors, but he has reverted every single one of them and violated WP:3RR several times in the process. He could be blocked, but he'll just return and continue adding it. So, let's come to a consensus on whether or not the statement should be included. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 22:50, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In case you are wondering, the unreferenced claim is as follows:

"Gleep Glop" is a reference to a sketch on Mr. Show with Bob and David called "Racist in the Year 3000" that appeared in the episode 403 "Show Me Your Weenis" which aired on November 2, 1998. On "Mr. Show" it is the name of a robotic bartender in the future, and the term "keep 'em coming, Gleep Glop" became one of the most-quoted from the show. Both "The Simpsons" and "Mr. Show" featured Bill Odenkirk as a writer.

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Do you support the inclusion of the statement or oppose it? -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 22:50, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Goes against policy. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 22:50, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Without a source it is nothing but speculation, and so simply cannot be included. Gran² 23:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose Worthless reference, with no source! Ctjf83 02:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It can stay out until he provides a source for not only the factoid but its purported significance. Guy (Help!) 14:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This whole vote is moot because I've provided a source and it's completely invalid since you saw fit to censor a vote supporting me based on a flimsy theory that I was using a sock that I somehow magically gave a two-and-a-half year history of contributions that is completely different than my own and somehow predates it (I guess I've mastered time-travel). I believe that Scorpion0422 and Ctjf83 are the same person anyway and unlike the groundless accusation that resulted in me being blocked for three days "their" contribution history actually supports that.GuruAskew 00:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Don't strike people's comments. You have not provided a source. The only way it will ever be acceptable is if a reliable source specifically says that it was being referenced. Otherwise, you are just proving they are smiliar and the section is Cultural References, not cultural similarities. Please stop adding it until this discussion is over. You've already been banned once and unless you stop with this hostile attitude you will be blocked again. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 01:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've re-added the information initially posted by GuruAskew per the content is factual and is a cultural reference.

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:

~~:Anychance you could mention what this unsourced reference to a little-known show actually is instead of just your opinion of the line? Rufous-crowned Sparrow 00:49, 10 November 2007 (UTC)~~ Never mind, I added it myself. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 00:54, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kent Brockman/Nick Nolte[edit]

On september 11, 2002 Nick Nolte was arrested for driving under the influence. When mr. Burns gives Homer the assigment to assasinate Brockman he shows a picture, very similar to the mugshot taken of Nick Nolte, with a bewildered gaze and the Hawaii shirt.

77.251.150.82 14:42, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Source? -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 14:43, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

From the episode, on nine minutes and five seconds, the photograph/mugshot of Kent Brockman appears in the top-right corner of the mirror/videoscreen. When compared to the actual picture ( http://z.about.com/d/crime/1/0/l/7/noltenick.jpg ) the resemblance is uncanny. 77.251.150.82 14:54, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but you need a source that confirms that the resemblance was intentional. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 16:26, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ok, I'll get on it Piedragon 17:36, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, the resemblance is striking, but you do need a source for it. Ka me yama 06:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ned as the devil[edit]

When Ned shows hell - it is a reference to the Bosch's paintings (the Lute and the Ned in the center) - look to http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/GardenED.jpg - and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hieronymus_Bosch

Im not sure about this but could Ned becoming the devil be one of the beliefs about what the devil is or how he came to be. I really have no idea about this sort of stuff but the idea just popped into my head when i saw this: God created the devil to get people to not do bad? 212.120.248.128 (talk) 19:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"It's always the one you least suspect".

-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 04:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

rateing[edit]

this is the first episode to be rated TV14 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.156.98 (talk) 05:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No its not. Rhino131 (talk) 13:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which one was then? I've never come across any BBFC 15 rated Simpsons DVDs (although I suppose it could be a 12). Digifiend (talk) 14:05, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Who was Bart's Bobblehead Doll supposed to be?[edit]

When Bart is showing Kodos the toys in his room, he shows him a bobblehead doll, which leads Kodos to remark, "Do all humans have such weak necks?" or something like that. The bobblehead is of someone named "Haldeman" or "Halteman". I'd like to find out who this is, and add it to the Cultural References section. MisplacedFate1313 (talk) 00:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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