Talk:Trees For Life (Australia)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Amakuru (talk) 21:02, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that by 2001, almost 2000 Trees For Life volunteers were growing 1.5 million plants every year? Source: "Trees for Life is one of the world [sic] largest volunteer producers of native seedlings. Each year they grow 1.5 million small trees and nearly 2000 volunteers transform their backyards into nurseries over summer." (Trees For Life, ABC Radio National)
  • ALT1:... that the first tree planted by Trees For Life volunteers was at One Tree Hill? Source: "The first Trees for Life tree was planted on One Tree Hill in 1982, ..." (Gardening Australia)

• Reviewed: No – this is only my second go at DYK, and I wanted to experience being reviewed a couple of times before reviewing.

Created by Adrian J. Hunter (talk). Self-nominated at 11:47, 29 January 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Meets eligibility criteria for newness and for length. Sourced and written in a neutral tone. Given the organizational linkage, I will be asking for another editor's validation so that we have two pairs of eyes. Copyvio has tagged some phrases to Trees for life organization homepage -- but, not significant. Hook is cited and is interesting. I will recommend going with original hook. Summary: All's good from my end. Requesting another editor to read the article for tone so we have two pairs of eyes to ensure that the article's tone is not PR / advertising for the organization. Ktin (talk) 08:52, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Stephen: wanted to see if you would be willing to give me a hand with this article. I have done my review, but, would appreciate a pair of eyes to read the article and confirm that you do not see any hygiene issues with it, particularly as it pertains to tone, I want to ensure that the article does not come across as promotional. Appreciate another pair of eyes. Ktin (talk) 20:41, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• I shall take a look. Schwede66 18:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I suggest this is almost neutral enough. There is some confusion about the number of volunteers. Do I understand this right that there were 2000 volunteers in 2001, but this had reduced to 500 volunteers by 2020? If that's correct, this decline should be explained or spelled out under one of the headings (currently, the info is spread across both headings, which might add to the confusion). The infobox should state the current number of volunteers and not a historic high, or alternatively, give both the peak and current numbers in conjunction with the corresponding year. Once this is tidied up, it should become clear that the organisation has been shrinking in size. Please comment here when the article has been amended and I shall have another look.

With regards to copyvio, I suggest that a few things be rephrased, as they are direct copies from a source:

• "bushland, farm land and urban terrain"
• "founder of the international environmental organisation Men of the Trees"

Lastly, I suggest that the second external link would be much better as prose in the article than as an external link, but that sits outside of DYK requirements. Schwede66 19:20, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the comments, Ktin and Schwede66. I'm just waiting to hear back from a friend on the Trees For Life board about the volunteer number discrepancy. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 10:24, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your patience, Ktin and Schwede66. I've expanded the Activities section, which I hope clarifies that "500 volunteers" refers to just one of TFL's several programs, whereas 2000 is the total number of volunteers across all programs.

I've rephrased the suggested word strings.

Regarding the external link, I hear you, but it's tricky when the quote from the TFL co-ordinator is ambiguous about whether it refers to TFL specifically or the sector as a whole. I think this will be easier to write if this funding really is granted and sources report on that. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 12:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Ktin and Schwede66, is there anything else you need from me? Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 03:18, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Apologies Adrian J. Hunter, I missed this one. Looks good from my perspective. Schwede66, please can you weigh in based on your notes. Thanks much in advance. Ktin (talk) 03:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, not sure how or why I overlooked this. Looks good now. Copyvio still shows up as an issue but "Use search engine" was ticked and it's a Wikipedia mirror that caused the problem, i.e. none of any editor's wrongdoing. It may well be that this was already the case last time. If so, my apologies. Good to go. Schwede66 07:10, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you both Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 08:02, 22 February 2021 (UTC)