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Name[edit]

I am going to change of this article to English. Any objections? aliceinlampyland 12:20, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Does not have quite the same ring to it as the Italian. I would leave it as it is.

Welfare State[edit]

Perhaps my perceptions of Italian fascism are a bit skewed but I find this sentence very strange: "The RSI is usually seen as the example of what Fascism should have been, in particular as an example of true welfare state." Correct me if I am wrong but I thought Fascism was always more about the support of nationalism and other conservative ideas. Welfare states are generally considered to be a liberal idea I think. While the idea of a welfare state may fall short of being truly socialist, it's certainly heading in that direction and I have strong doubts that Mussolini's intentions were to create such a nation. It seems to me that this sentence is misleading about the party's actual objectives, claiming a more liberal and populist platform just as the party of Hitler did in it's name (National Socialist). I'm going to give this article a more thorough look over and maybe do a little more digging but my immediate response to this sentence is that it should be removed. The idea that "RSI is usually seen as the example of what Fascism SHOULD have been" is also overtly biased and in nature, nothing more than propaganda. I won't edit this immediately in case there is something I don't know but this really doesn't seem accurate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2headedboy (talk • contribs) 22:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Welfare state is one of the core tenets of both fascism and national-socialism. The fact that it is also the goal pursued by today's leftist (what's called "liberal" in the USA) parties is irrelevant - they do not have a unique claim to the idea. -- int19h 10:12, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Title[edit]

In agreement with Nightstallion I moved the page back to the original title, "Tricolour Flame". I report here the conversation between me and Nighstallion (taken from his talk page), in which we agreed to make the change. --Checco (talk) 15:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't agree with the move of "Tricolour Flame" to Tricolour Flame Social Movement. It is true that this is the complete name, but I think that it would be fairly better to use the most used name, "Tricolour Flame", as we did for Democratic Left and Lega Nord. Moreover the party itself uses the simpler name in the symbol, in the official website and for the groups in elected Councils, differently from what Democracy is Freedom – Daisy used to do (reason why in that case the complete name is ok with me). Do you agree with me about returning back to the original title of the article? --Checco (talk) 14:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aye. —Nightstallion 14:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did the move. --Checco (talk) 15:09, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

nods —Nightstallion 10:57, 28 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Checco (talk • contribs) [reply]