Talk:Trijata

Trijata has been listed as one of the Philosophy and religion good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: October 17, 2014. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Trijata appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 September 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the demoness Trijata is described as the ideal of a true friend by Indologist Camille Bulcke?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2014/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Trijata.

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Trijata/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: AmritasyaPutra (talk · contribs) 14:04, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria[edit]

Good Article Status - Review Criteria

Further information: WP:WIAGA

A good article is—

Well-written:

(a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and

(b) it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.^[1]

Verifiable with no original research:

(a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;

(b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose);^[2] and

(c) it contains no original research.

Broad in its coverage:

(a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic;^[3] and

(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

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Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

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(a) media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and

(b) media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.^[6]

Review[edit]

Well-written:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (prose)	Simple clear language used.	Pass
(b) (MoS)	As per discussion, the doubts in WP:LEAD are addressed.	Pass

Verifiable with no original research:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (references)	It contains a list of all references presented in accordance with the layout style guideline, there are no dead links either.	Pass
(b) (citations to reliable sources)	There are no opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements.	Pass
(c) (original research)	It contains no original research.	Pass

Broad in its coverage:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (major aspects)	Yes, it coverts all major aspects.	Pass
(b) (focused)	As far as GA goes I think it is fairly focused.	Pass

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.

Notes	Result
Nothing incriminating, no suggestive wording in my view.	Pass

Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

Notes	Result
Stable. No ongoing edit war or content dispute.	Pass

Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales)	Yes, the images are tagged with their copyright status.	Pass
(b) (appropriate use with suitable captions)	Yes, images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Pass

Result[edit]

Result	Notes
Pass	After discussed changes and per above comments I find it good against GA standard

Discussion[edit]

I have started the review. It does not have any cleanup banners and does not contain any seemingly copyright infringements, I will continue with the six good article criteria. Thank you. --AmritasyaPutra^T 14:05, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Initial feedback on the lead:

Can you correct the Sanskrit spelling to त्रिजटा.

Corrected. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:39, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Could you clarify "In the original Ramayana" in the lead? (Probably adding "by Valmiki" as done in the body?)

Removed word "original". Ramayana is introduced in the lead. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:39, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Could you clarify "Southeast Asian versions" (Probably substituting with "in the Thai Ramakien" as done in the body?)

Southeast Asian versions include Thai, Malay, Indonesian versions. Sentence is referenced in "Trijata and Sita" para 1. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:39, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Redtigerxyz: The lead has "Southeast Asian versions often depict her as the wife of Rama's monkey general Hanuman...", it the body it is present in "In the Thai Ramakien, Hanuman helps...". Am I mistaken? --AmritasyaPutra^T 12:42, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

AmritasyaPutra, The last para of "After the war" talks about Thai, Malay and Javanese traditions.Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:52, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, right! All my queries are answered, I will continue with the review. --AmritasyaPutra^T 12:56, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article looks well-written, neutral. I found a few reference which did not actually support the text but maybe I am not reading the translation correctly. I will continue the review after your response to the above feedback. Thank you. --AmritasyaPutra^T 13:26, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

AmritasyaPutra, Thanks for starting the review. I may be a busy in real life over the next few days and may take taime to reply.Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:39, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the pass, AmritasyaPutra. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 05:33, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Additional notes[edit]

^ Compliance with other aspects of the Manual of Style, or the Manual of Style mainpage or subpages of the guides listed, is not required for good articles.
^ Either parenthetical references or footnotes can be used for in-line citations, but not both in the same article.
^ This requirement is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required of featured articles; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics.
^ Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing), and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of unconstructive editing should be placed on hold.
^ Other media, such as video and sound clips, are also covered by this criterion.
^ The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement. However, if images (or other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.

[1] Compliance with other aspects of the Manual of Style, or the Manual of Style mainpage or subpages of the guides listed, is not required for good articles.

[2] Either parenthetical references or footnotes can be used for in-line citations, but not both in the same article.

[3] This requirement is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required of featured articles; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics.

[4] Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing), and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of unconstructive editing should be placed on hold.

[5] Other media, such as video and sound clips, are also covered by this criterion.

[6] The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement. However, if images (or other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.

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