Talk:Trucial States

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Moved. DMacks (talk) 17:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Trucial Sheikhdoms → Trucial States — According to most references on this state, most say Trucial Coast. — NuclearVacuum 20:51, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

• Support a move but prefer a move to Trucial States as the most common term. The precursor of the UAE Supreme Council was called the Trucial States Council. Postage stamps of the entity read "Trucial States" in English.[1] It appears that only "Trucial States" appears in current book titles, specifically From Trucial States to United Arab Emirates[2] and Britain's Revival and Fall in the Gulf: Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, and the Trucial States, 1950-71[3]

"Trucial Oman" was used more at the time (e.g., in Trucial Oman Scouts) but less so now. "Trucial Coast" is often applied more specifically to just the coast. But any of the above are preferable to "Trucial Sheikhdoms" which is often used merely as a descriptive than a title (i.e., "Trucial sheikhdoms" with a lowercase "s"). — AjaxSmack 02:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Google Books results:

• "Trucial States"
• "Trucial Oman"
• "Trucial Coast"
• "Trucial Sheikhdoms"

• Support Trucial States is the most common term in English. The current title, Trucial Sheikhdoms, is the least common term. Skinsmoke (talk) 05:47, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Confusing infobox

The "Succeeded by" column lists Ras-al-Khaima separately, but the first line the article on that entity says that it is part of the UAE, making its appearance in that column seemingly redundant. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 08:09, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Too Much Self-Linking!

practically every new instance of "Trucial <whatever>" just links directly back to this page 04:33, 29 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.108.80.118 (talk)

Al Heera

Living in Al Heera, I'm reluctant to demote it, but am not aware its ruler ever signed a treaty with the British (making it, then, a Trucial State), even though he did not/only nominally accepted the rule of Sharjah. So I'm not sure it can be called a Trucial State!

Similarly, Dibba, Hamriyah and Kalba all professed independence at some stage but did not (as far as I am aware) sign treaties with the British... Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:19, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

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Flag

I was just wondering if the flag is accurate? The flag shown on the Flags of the World page for Trucial States has a seven pointed star but of a different design to that shown on this page. Does anyone know which is correct?

A third star shape (similar to the star on the Jordanian flag) is shown on Flags Online so perhaps there was no set star shape?

--Boreas74 ^{You'll catch more flies with honey} 17:01, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Vagueness in statement regarding transfer of power

Can someone help elucidate this sentence, and provide a citation for it?

"In the 20th century, power in Abu Dhabi, Sharjah and Ras Al Khaimah never transferred through peaceful means."

Belipo95 (talk) 14:49, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

I think it should be deleted because it is not correct. In Abu Dhabi, Zayed bin Khalifa Al Nahyan died in 1909 and was succeeded peacefully by his son Tahnoun. You could also argue that Zayed bin Sultan's accession in 1966 was peaceful (there was no violence). In Sharjah, Sheikh Khalid bin Ahmad Al Qasimi succeeded Saqr bin Khalid peacefully in 1914. Saqr bin Sultan succeeded his father peacefully in 1951. In Ras Al Khaimah, Sheikh Khalid bin Ahmad Al Qasimi succeeded Saqr bin Khalid peacefully in 1914.Sultan bin Salim Al Qasimi became ruler in 1924 after the British recognised Ras Al Khaimah as a separate entity. Acres Of Sand (talk) 20:06, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

I agree, it's too broad and without a source, it should be removed. UA3 (talk) 03:32, 16 September 2019 (UTC)