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In addition to wikification, this article needs some further cleanup to meet Wikipedia standards. German-style abbreviations like v.Moltke for von Moltke need to be Anglicized. The copyright notices need to be cleaned out (such brief quotes are fair use; and it looks like advertisement right now) and replaced with proper citations. --Orange Mike 13:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, German Umlauts need to be added (it's "Truppenführung", not "Truppenfuhrung"). I also seriously doubt they used CamelCase ("AuftragTaktik"); the proper German word would be "Auftragstaktik", or possibly "Auftrag-Taktik", or "Auftrags-Taktik". For the benefit of screen readers, non-English words should be wrapped in language templates, for instance "{{lang|de|Truppenführung}}" which yields Truppenführung marked up in a way such that a screen reader can switch to proper German pronunciation. Lupo 08:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Auftragstaktik" or "Auftrags-Taktik" Paradoctor (talk) 14:59, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The official German military vocabulary lists the term as 'AuftragsTaktik'. There is no exact equivalent word, or expression, in English and the United States and British General Staffs have agreed on the terms as listed in the article.Miletus (talk) 20:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If there is an official vocabulary, please cite it. I'm a native speaker, and German used to use camelcase in abbreviations only. Currently, the "official" expression seems to be Führen mit Auftrag.[1][2] Paradoctor (talk) 14:59, 3 January 2010 (UTC)::[reply]

There is a wikipage on Auftragstaktik which provides more information which may be helpful.Miletus (talk) 17:20, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Ludwig Beck[edit]

This is raider1210 - not sure where I should add this comment, but in this article is stated that Ludwig Beck was executed but on Ludwig Beck articke it is stated that he was forced to commit suicide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raider1210 (talk • contribs) 12:18, 3 January 2010 (UTC) ::: I'm not sure that this is the best Wikipage for this question. My own recollection is that he tried to commit suicide but failed and only wounded himself in the head. He was then immediately brought before a Nazi tribunal (VolksGerichtHof), subjected to a short trial and hanged on a meathook (standard method of those people). This is my personal recollection but, I think it was something like that. Hope this is helpful.Miletus (talk) 18:03, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reference the death of Ludwig Beck: The latest information is in the new biography of v.Manstein (by Major General Melvin, published in May 2010). His research, in the German archives, has shown that Beck tried twice to shoot himself in the head but bungled the job and was finished off by a sergeant. So my entry written above is corrected.Miletus (talk) 08:04, 21 June 2010 (UTC)Miletus (talk) 12:30, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When in doubt, comment on both talkpages. You can fix this yourself: Try to find a reliable source, then correct the articles accordingly. If you run into problems, drop me a line on my talkpage. BTW, please sign your messages with ~~~~, this will automatically insert your signature. Regards, Paradoctor (talk) 14:59, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tante Frieda or Tante Freide[edit]

This book was 'punningly referred to as "Tante Frieda"', referring to the novel by Ludwig Thoma, according to the Osprey book cited. It is referred to by this name in Jim Dunnigan's "How To Make War (4th edition)".^[1]

Roches (talk) 18:12, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Dunnigan, James F. (2003). How to make war : a comprehensive guide to modern warfare in the twenty-first century (4th ed.). New York: Quill. ISBN 978-0060090128.

[1] Dunnigan, James F. (2003). How to make war : a comprehensive guide to modern warfare in the twenty-first century (4th ed.). New York: Quill. ISBN 978-0060090128.

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