Talk:Two Roosters Ice Cream
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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 13:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- ... that Two Roosters Ice Cream became locally popular after offering odd flavors such as "grilled cheese" and "pizza"? (Source)
- ALT1: ... that Two Roosters Ice Cream began business out of a turquoise and white travel trailer-turned ice cream truck? (Source)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Molly Burman
Johnson524 15:19, 24 May 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. @Johnson524: I wonder though whether the section titled "Criticism and awards" is appropriate since everything mentioned there seems to be positive. Not someone required to be changed for this to be approved, though. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:48, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Done @BeanieFan11: I appreciate the feedback and have updated the page, cheers! Johnson524 11:35, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
GA Review
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Nominator: Johnson524 (talk · contribs) 13:28, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: TrademarkedTWOrantula (talk · contribs) 12:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Sweet! (gonna claim this review before others do, hehe) TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 12:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for picking up this review! I'll try to respond to your feedback as soon as possible, but with college orientation this week for me, there might be some delay 😅 Cheers! Johnson524 19:24, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's alright! Congrats on making it to college. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 19:37, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnson524: Finished. Gonna put the article on hold. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 17:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnson524: Poke. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 19:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @TrademarkedTWOrantula OMG I'm so sorry for the delay!! Since you did the review, making the updates/corrections has never left my mind, and they will be done by the end of the day. A million thanks for your patience, Johnson524 17:22, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @TrademarkedTWOrantula OK I'm finally done with your corrections. Thank you so so much for your patience, and I'm sorry for how long this has taken to get done. I really like your critiques, and hope I was able to satisfy your concerns. Cheers! Johnson524 22:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Awesome!! And no worries; there is no deadline. Glad I could review this. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 22:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @TrademarkedTWOrantula OK I'm finally done with your corrections. Thank you so so much for your patience, and I'm sorry for how long this has taken to get done. I really like your critiques, and hope I was able to satisfy your concerns. Cheers! Johnson524 22:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @TrademarkedTWOrantula OMG I'm so sorry for the delay!! Since you did the review, making the updates/corrections has never left my mind, and they will be done by the end of the day. A million thanks for your patience, Johnson524 17:22, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnson524: Poke. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 19:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnson524: Finished. Gonna put the article on hold. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 17:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's alright! Congrats on making it to college. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 19:37, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | Article mostly sources from local television stations and The News & Observer. |
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2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. | According to Earwig, the top result is at a 9.1% similarity! Well done! |
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3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | Article stays on-topic. It does not list every ice cream flavor they have had (which would be a violation of WP:INDISCRIMINATE). |
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4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | Article is neutral; it does not try to promote or criticize the restaurant itself. |
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5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | Article is stable. No edit wars have occurred as of this review. |
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6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | Logo has valid fair use rationale. Physical location and ice cream photos are published under a CC0 1.0 license. |
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6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | Logo photo shows what the logo looks like. Physical location photo shows what the building looks like. Ice cream sample photo shows what they serve. |
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Initial comments
[edit]- The reception article looks a little sparse. Is that all there can be found?
- Is the quote box needed?
- Can't really see the middle flavor, coffee bourbon, well enough (to me, it looks like vanilla)
- Source 10 (PNC Arena primary source) isn't needed (secondary source could just as easily verify that there is a Two Roosters in the arena)
- How is source 4 (Poole College of Management) reliable?
Lead
[edit]- "located around" -> "in"?
Done
- "began operations" -> "was founded"?
Not done To prevent repetition, since the sentence begins with "Founded"
- Cut "unique" in "unique flavors" (sounds promotional)
- Would not recommend quoting "grilled cheese" and "pizza" (I would consider it scare-quoting)
Done
- gained
enoughpublic supportDone
- Link brick and mortar
Done
- "a further four location" -> "two new locations" (according to their official website)
- Is the Cary location open yet?
- Not yet, but I'm waiting to update the page when it does!
- Could add a one-sentence summary of the ice cream parlor's menu and collaborations.
Done
- Quote "best local ice cream" instead of italicizing it
Done
History
[edit]Founding
[edit]- "The founder of the parlor" -> "Founder"
Done
- was inspired by his childhood to make the business someday when he and other neighborhood kids churned and created ice cream at his grandmother's house. -> "...was inspired to start an ice cream parlor from his childhood experience churning ice cream with his neighbors at his grandmother's house."
Done
- On both sides of his grandmother's doorway hung black wooden roosters, which later inspired the name of the parlor. -> "Both sides of his grandmother's doorway had black wooden roosters, which inspired the parlor's name."
Done
- "Here, he" -> "At college, he"
Done
- Plummer later said in a 2021 Poole College interview his time working as an accountant helped him to feel confident in starting his own business. -> "In a 2021 Poole College interview, Plummer stated that working as an accountant helped him feel confident starting his own business."
Done
- "spread awareness and bring in sales" -> "promote the business"
Done
- Not sure how it's relevant to state the spot where the Two Roosters truck parks the most often
- I included it since this was the first real "location" they had, where they really started to gain a following. Oh also it came up a few times in some of the WRAL citations, and the repetition further convinced me
- Cut "unique" in "unique flavors" (promotional)
- Don't scare-quote "grilled cheese" or "pizza"
Done
- Just gonna copyedit stuff myself
- Thank you!!!
Growth and expansion
[edit]First paragraph is quite confusing. If the reader were to read this without dates, they would be confused as to which branch was founded after the other.Not done Sorry, I'm not really sure what to change here 😅
- Actually, I think the paragraph's good as is.
- In late 2023 or early 2024 - Which is it?
- Its never specified, it just implies it is between this time period.
Menu and collaborations
[edit]- "between the seasons" -> "seasonally"
Done
- new ice cream flavors
Done
- "picked out" -> "chosen"
Done
- or
decidedin guest collaborations.Done
- and Plummer's favorite - Trivia; not really that important to mention
Done
- Cut "according to a 2024 The News & Observer article" as the reader could easily pull up the reference and view its bibliographic information
Done
- One annually recurring collaboration and Plummer's favorite, according to a 2024 The News & Observer article, is named "kid chef", where local kids submit ice cream flavors and the six most inventive are picked to make up the monthly series. -> An annually recurring collaboration is the "kid chef" contest, where children submit ice cream flavors, with the top six making up the next monthly series.
Done
- These specialty flavors - From the "kid chef" contest?
Done I think that was supposed to say "seasonal" but I removed it altogether
- Some flavors have dairy-free options. - Would recommend moving this sentence earlier in the paragraph.
Done
- "Flavors such as" -> "Flavors with" (article is talking about ingredients, but I may be wrong here) + I'm kind of against quoting the ice cream flavor names
Not done These are the actual names of the ice cream flavors, which is also why I quoted their names to try to avoid confusion... but I can still remove these if you want? They were a later addition to the article to try to help with clarification, but if you don't think they're doing that anymore I'll trust your judgement 😁
- "run promotions" -> "sponsored"?
Not done I don't think they were ever actually sponsored by them, I think Plummer as an NC State alumnus just really wanted to include some State stuff in his parlor (I could be wrong on that, that's just how I interpreted it, and used "run promotions" to stay safe
- Technically the collaborations are part of the menu. Couldn't we just call this section "menu" instead?
Sure!
Reception
[edit]- "has also won first in" -> "won"
Done
- USA Today 10Best - Is it "10 Best" or "10Best"?
- I've only ever seen it stylized together
- Since this is a short section, there isn't really that much to note. However, I do feel as though this section could be a tad longer, especially for an ice cream parlor that is considered the "best in the nation".
- Agreed, but they were only called that by one magazine, and they only placed eighth in said competition that year. That's still big/why I included it, but it never won a bunch of awards or got recognized nationally, which would've given me more to write about.
- What did they rank in the 2019 10 Best Readers' Choice Awards?
- I couldn't find out for the life of me 😭
Spotchecking
[edit]- Gonna check seven sources.
- #6:
(doesn't mention what type of bourbon, it just says "bourbon")
- You might have been looking at the wrong source? The third paragraph of the citation says "Flavors like coffee bourbon and sea salt chip cookie dough are perennial favorites [...]"
- #7:
- #11:
- #13:
(only mentions the Cracker Jacks-flavored ice cream)
- Yes, that's mentioned in citation 14 instead, which is placed beside 13 at the end of the sentence
- #15:
- #16:
- #19:
Can't seem to access the results.
Done Weird... replaced the citation regardless
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