Talk:Tynwald

Reorganising subnational legislature categories

This article is listed under Category:Dependency legislatures. It is proposed to either merge this category with Category:Legislatures of subnational entities by reassigning the categories OR to make it a subcategory of Legislatures of subnational entities. To contribute to the discussion, please go to: Category talk:Dependency legislatures Adz 08:12, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

actually, the more I think about it, I think it would be better just to make it a subcategory, because dependencies are a special type of subnational entity, and it would prevent the other category from getting cluttered in future. Adz 08:12, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

pronunciation?

How is 'Tynwald' pronounced? It's not immediately obvious, so there should probably be an IPA version after the name.

Bird of paradox 16:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

If you know IPA it sounds like Tin-wald. Dabbler 00:29, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Jamtamót parliament of Jämtland

The article says:

"There are other parliaments which are undoubtedly older but these have not had a continuous existence. The Icelandic Alþingi was established in 930 but abolished in 1800 and not refounded until 1845. The Faroese Logting is believed to be the oldest of that three, established as early as in the 9th century and recorded to exist as annual assembly in the 10th century. San Marino also claims that its parliament dates to 301 AD, making it several centuries earlier than the claims of the Norse assemblies."

The Jamtamót thing in Jämtland, now called Jämtlands läns landsting, has had a continuous existence since at least between 1000 and 1050 AD (when christianity was introduced at the thing, see Frösö Runestone) though through different names, but always on the Frösö island. No doubt it must have existed for a longer time than the Icelandic and Faroese things which are due to Viking colonization. Remember that Jämtland is situated in the homeland of the Vikings.

I doubt though that Jamtamót can beat San Marino.

Jens Persson (213.67.64.22 18:00, 21 January 2007 (UTC))

Tricameral

By the same rather dubious logic, the British House of Commons and Lords in Westminster can be said to be tricameral because the members of both gather together to listen to the Queen speaking at the opening of Parliament. Dabbler (talk) 00:18, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I was just thinking the same thing, but at least the Council and Keys do occasionally vote as one body. -Ehrenkater (talk) 00:23, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Oldest continuous parliament; established in 979

What historical sources show that the Tynwald was established in 979? What proves that the Tynwald has been going "continuously" since then? Here's a quote from a book on GoogleBooks (Robinson, Vaughan; Danny McCarroll, Danny. (1990). The Isle of Man: celebrating a sense of place. Liverpool University Press. ISBN 9780853230366. p.123): "In 1979, the Isle of Man celebrated the Millennium of Tynwald, its parliamentary assembly. The date was chosen in a somewhat arbitrary manner as there was no evidence, documentary or otherwise, to suggest an event occurred in 979 that was readily identifiable with the festivities in the Island one thousand years later ..."--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 08:50, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Here's another quote (from Maddrell, Breesha. "Tynwald" in Koch, John T. (2006). Celtic Culture: A Historical Encyclopedia. ISBN 1-85109-445-8. pp.1699-1700): "... The millennium of Tynwald was celebrated in 1979 and, although this date was brought into question, it was claimed to have marked a continuous tradition of at least one thousand years of Tynwald". The source cites: Broderick, Place-Names of the Isle of Man; and Solly, Government and Law in the Isle of Man.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 09:14, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

This along with the "continuous" claim is discussed in the History of Tynwald section of the article. I think "claimed" is a fair description and it has been put in there before but edited out. Dabbler (talk) 11:22, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

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