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Requested move 23 December 2017[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Page not moved. Request withdrawn by nominator. Can be moved later if the committee makes the call. (non-admin closure) —CycloneIsaac (Talk) 21:06, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Typhoon Tembin (2017) → Typhoon Tembin – Given the high death toll of 203, it is most appropriate this gets the main attention, as for one it caused more deaths then any incarnation of Tembin so far, and its the worst storm to affect Mindanao since Washi in 2011. Plus, the other incarnations had little significance. MarioProtIV (^talk/_contribs) 23:30, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) @MarioProtIV: Your timing is funny, because the upgrade of the storm to typhoon status has rendered your move request invalid. In any case, high-casualty tropical cyclones are common in the Philippines and there is insufficient reason to make it the primary topic. Most people in the Philippines are going to look for "Typhoon Vinta" instead, leaving no compelling reason why the others English-speaking readers of the world will look for this one in particular.--Jasper Deng (talk) 01:09, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the parameters to reflect typhoon status. --MarioProtIV (^talk/_contribs) 01:12, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioProtIV: I would wait until next year when the retired names are announced. Should Tembin be one, I would take off the year, should not, then no. Typhoon2013 (talk) 02:45, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There have been many cases of not retiring typhoons with the high death toll. Please wait for the Typhoon Committee session in February 2018. 🐱💬 06:34, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Oppose after thinking this over the last 24 hours, I'm not (yet) convinced that this is drastically more memorable than the 2012 incarnation yet. Philippines gets tons of deadly typhoons per decade, so one triple digit death toll storm isn't particularly likely to be searched more than the 2012 version, and thus mostly be sought by weather geeks like myself in the future. However, if the death toll rises, this could change. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:21, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wait first - The death tools doesn't reach 300 as of now - Once it's got into 300 deaths or more i will support it. If it's deadly on Vietnam i will support it too.SMB99thx XD (contribs) 01:51, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Why 300? Sadly, a death toll in the 200-500 range is hardly atypical for a typhoon in the Philippines.--Jasper Deng (talk) 03:17, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - 300 deaths = PAGASA Retirement.Jason Rees (talk) 21:37, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until WMO announces that the name is retired. --Bluemask (talk) 10:33, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wait As per arguments from Typhoon2013 (talk · contribs) and Bluemask (talk · contribs). I think waiting for the announcement of retired typhoon names is better. (101.160.151.162 (talk) 11:11, 25 December 2017 (UTC))[reply]
Wait for the ESCAP/WMO Typhoon Committee to make the call at the end of February.Jason Rees (talk) 21:37, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I guess we can wait. Close this for now and we'll revisit this if the name is retired. --MarioProtIV (^talk/_contribs) 01:13, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FYI @MarioProtIV: the rule of thumb is that if a name is retired and it hasnt already got the main article, then it gets the main article and in my expierence, the WPTC admins move the page once we have proof that it has been retired.Jason Rees (talk) 01:51, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Hurricanehink and Cyclonebiskit: (either of the two) to close this since it is pretty obvious we will wait. --MarioProtIV (^talk/_contribs) 22:51, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.