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The entire timeline of this article may need to be rewritten Joe Biden joined the senate 120 years ago according to both himself and snopes, our timeline is way off.[1]99.99.46.20 (talk)
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There's way too much duplicated from Joe Biden. I'm thinking particularly of the personal background, first campaign, death of family, remarriage, and other early material. This is about his senate career and should keep the first-campaign material strictly business, then go to his swearing-in. Similar criticism may apply to other material later in the article but I didn't look. EEng 01:21, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@EEng: I am not terribly familiar with splits (this was my first major split proposal) and I assumed at the time that such an article would basically be a more detailed summary of his life in these years. After looking at a bit of United States Senate career of Hillary Clinton, I think that the possible solutions for the personal issues would be one of the following:
Doing nothing
Removing the "family deaths" and similar personal things from the article unless it had a notable effect on his Senate activities, and either (a) moving them to a new "personal life" section of the article, or (b) the sections they were in previously (within their original sections in the main article, but not in this article).
My preference is for option 2b, though any option other than 1 would require some major changes to parts of this article. I am also unsure of whether the 2008 campaign should be included given that this would be about his Senate activities specifically. Username6892(Peer Review) 01:59, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
These splits are a little too familiar, if you want my opinion.
I think 2 is the right approach. Within that, 2a is definitely wrong: this article is about his senate career, and anything that isn't needed to help the reader understand that doesn't belong here. So, for example, the family deaths should be mentioned in one sentence, and the fact that it affected his work for a time in another, but that's about it. 2b seems wrong as well, because this material is indeed already treated in the main article -- edited, of course, by yours truly to eliminate flab. (It't not beyond conceiving, of course, that I might have over-cut here and there.) EEng 02:21, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest I haven't the energy to delve into details, but I saw your edit at the main article in passing and it looks like you're doing the right thing. EEng 23:30, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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