Talk:Vagn Holmboe

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This article could use some better punctuation and syntax (and also some links for the list of works). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.251.235.130 (talk • contribs)

The list of works has basically one reference really- Rapoport's book in its most recent edition (a complete list and discography of his works up to almost the end of Holmboe's life). One other partial list (with opus numbers) can be found at Holmboe at Edition Wilhelm Hansen . Schissel | Sound the Note! 13:57, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Meta numbers versus opus numbers[edit]

Paul Rapoport's idea of renumbering the works doubtless gives a truer idea of the vastness of the total, and it's nice to honor both Meta May and the Metamorphosis principle, but meanwhile this cuts the Wikipedia article off from other sources such as the Schwann Opus catalog which are entirely oriented to opus numbers.

Maybe the opus numbers can be given in parentheses? More clutter, but at least staying in touch.

Holmboe put some thought, it seems, into choosing his opus numbers. For example, Concerto No. 11 for Trumpet, Two Horns and String Orchestra, 0p. 44-- the eleven matches the two horns and the forty-four is like the cross-hatching and stroking of all those fiddles. Or Symphony No. 9, 0p. 95-- echoes the title of a certain Dvorak work? And what about the only Quartet No. 11, Op. 111 in the history of the planet, or Symphony No. 11, Op. 144?Tokerdesigner (talk) 00:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I like that! (those.) Almost gets me thinking no wonder he held off on calling two other works his 9th symphony, and waited... Schissel | Sound the Note! 13:43, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody in Copenhagen gets it-- they staged the World Glowball Warning Convention to climax the very weekend of Holmboe's hundredth birthday (Dec. 20, 2009)-- and they brought in the 44th US president to sound a trumpet note (see Concerto 11, above).Tokerdesigner (talk) 19:04, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the opus numbers should actually be given priority, and the Meta numbers put in parentheses, because the opus numbers are more widely used. For example, BIS includes the Meta numbers on its recordings, but as far as I can tell all other record companies rely entirely on opus numbers. Published music also tends to have the opus number. Orfeocookie (talk) 16:53, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RE: List of compositions by Vagn Holmboe[edit]

I feel OrfeoCookie should be congratulated for coming in to provide this tabulated list. At present, the list appears rather more advanced than the main composer article, within which the link seems to me to be rather carefully hidden away. Is there something we could do to improve the situation, I wonder? MistyMorn (talk) 12:20, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sincere thanks for the congratulations. Some of the references/external links I included for the list of compositions would probably be helpful for beefing up the biographical material here in the main article (eg the Wilhelm Hansen page and the Dacapo Records one) - but it's not a task I feel like taking on personally. I'm a bit worn out!

I was considering tidying up the 'major works' here a little bit, so that it doesn't look like it's attempting to be a 'list of works'. For example, the symphonies ARE undoubtedly major works but it might not be necessary any more to list them one by one. A more compact and punchy 'major works' and an expansion of the other sections might improve the overall balance? Orfeocookie (talk) 07:30, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've just seen this after posting on your User Talk page. As you know Wikipedia is a volunteer community: so there's no need to do anything one doesn't feel like doing. One can always come back to something later, whenever the whim dictates. I agree with what you say about the list of Major Works on the main page. I guess it could go now... especially if we manage to get together more descriptive text on the major works. If you did, in due course, feel like helping out with this sort of thing, you mat find this link helpful. Best, MistyMorn (talk) 09:44, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"performances conducted by Holmboe"[edit]

These may exist (I believe he did conduct some performances, even premieres, of his music, as I recall, especially early on?) but I don't know of them. What I believe this referred to was performances of Holmboe's music conducted by Malko and by Fritz Mahler (Holmboe's 7th symphony, in both cases, as I recall, the former possibly a very striking world premiere performance). There is or was another with a performance of the Requiem for Nietzsche, I think, and another was a memorable tape of the oboe quintet Musik til Morten, e.g. But these were not conducted by Holmboe. In some cases they were the only representatives of those works in any kind of audible circulation at all before commercial recordings were released, though. Schissel | Sound the Note! 14:20, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]