Talk:Venezuelan communal councils

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I have completed my initial attempt to write a complete article. It could probably use more specific references through out and maybe some newer facts. I would appreciate additions and clarifications. Special thanks to Josh Lerner from whom I grabbed much of the historical and present details. Jasondiceman 23:23, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice article, I am removing the cleanup-tone tag because the article seems to meet wikipedia's definition of a formal tone. Questioning81 21:43, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Very interesting article, I work in Chile, and the Regional Government of Bio Bio is considering baby steps towards something similar. Regarding the Unit of Social Control, I think a better translation of the Spanish "control" would be oversight, as "control" in English has different connotations. --Scott Clerk (talk) 13:42, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I applied this change as suggested.Jason Diceman (talk) 19:14, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A new article on Venezuelanalysis.com (November 25 2009 "Venezuela’s Reformed Communal Council Law Aims at Increasing Participation") has made me aware of several reforms to the Communal Council law, which I have recently applied to the article. That said, I'm not confident all the other details are fully up-to-date, as I have not been focused on CCs much since 2007. It would be great to have someone in Venezuela review and update this article.Jason Diceman (talk) 19:14, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ATTENTION: The article is complete bullshit. It reads as if written by communist Venezuela's propaganda minister. Grow up.. 70.192.192.131 (talk) 04:21, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any specific suggestions for improvement? DavidLeighEllis (talk) 04:23, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Developing article using reliable sources[edit]

Over the last few months, this article has been developed off into uncharted waters (AKA WP:OR) by IP contributors providing absolutely no reliable sources (let's not even mention any semblance of verifiable sources, be they reliable or WP:BIASED).

Thanks to Bobrayner for removing a great chunk of much of this mess. Nevertheless, there is unverifiable content remaining.

Please, if you intend to develop the article, be sure that you provide reliable sources to back up your additions. Thank you all, in advance, for your co-operation. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:51, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have also removed a section that appears to be OR to this talk page for further reference checking.

Here it is:

Comparisons to other examples of community governance

Communal councils are probably most similar to the practice of a tribal or community meeting within very small rural communities. In such meetings the assembly may be the highest decision making body with a potentially large scope of decision-making activities as needed within their jurisdiction. But this model is exclusive to tiny communities that are too remote and unique to be effectively governed by distant municipal governments. Communal councils on the other hand exist along the full spectrum of population density from apartment complexes in the large city of Caracas to tiny remote indigenous communities.

The Town meeting model is similar in that it invites the members of the community to discuss and potentially vote on important budgets, polices or plans for the community. A key difference is that Town meetings are normally only held on a yearly basis and serve as rare and limited citizen input into what is otherwise a representative government system. Comparatively communal councils may hold citizens' assemblies as frequently as needed and are relatively independent of the municipal representative system.

Other examples of locally elected councils such as community councils, civil parish, civil township, town council, and city councils are models where the decision-making power is formally delegated to the elected officials and thus not comparable to the participatory nature of the communal councils which have citizens' assemblies as the highest formal decision-making authority.

This article did have a problem with WP:OR but as it sits right now, some sources may be found.--ZiaLater (talk) 00:44, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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