Talk:Verax (film)

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Copies of the AFP article[edit]

Copies include:

WhisperToMe (talk) 09:40, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Film's use of SCMP[edit]

A tweet by "Henry Williams" (digitalhen)...

Identifies the South China Sentinel as being based off the South China Morning Post and the female reporter as being based on Lana Lam. Let's see if there is an RS that confirms this.

The character who would be based on Lana Lam would be "Lecia Lau". Also the editor of the real SCMP is Wang Xiangwei while the fictional editor is Wu Xingwei.

WhisperToMe (talk) 10:00, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Getty images of Cromeek as Snowden[edit]

These are not free images. I wonder if they can be in an EL section:

WhisperToMe (talk) 21:49, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese name of Edwin Lee[edit]

According to this source:

The Chinese name of Edwin Lee was "李 某 Lǐ Mǒu"

  • Source sentence: "剪接此片的李某(Edwin Lee)29对法新社记者表示：“能够第一个把有关斯诺登的短片推出来我特别兴奋。”"

However this source:

Says that Edwin Lee's Chinese name is "李健恩 Lǐ Jiànēn"

  • Source sentence: "The picture was made by a quartet of semi-professionals comprising Jeff Floro (謝夫發露), Edwin Lee (李健恩), Shawn Tse (謝兆龍) and Marcus Tsui (崔正傑), and was posted to YouTube late last week."

WhisperToMe (talk) 21:56, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Which of the four co-creators are "Cantonese"?[edit]

I am not sure which of the four co-creators are of Cantonese origin (all are expats from western countries). If any are, this would be their Cantonese:

  • 李健恩 - lei5 gin6 jan1
  • 謝兆龍 - ze6 (siu6 or ziu6) lung4
  • 崔正傑 - ceoi1 (zeng3 or zing1 or zing3) git6

WhisperToMe (talk) 00:56, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:N[edit]

I don't think a youtube video that that isn't a cult hit on its own and is described by the LA Times as an "instafilm" merits its own page. There will soon be other documentaries that merit their own pages due in part to their length and the notability of their producers. This film's only notability is derived from Edward Snowden, so it belongs there (if anywhere). --Nstrauss (talk) 18:28, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Edward Snowden article is getting too long and some WP editors talk constantly about spitting info out. It makes sense to me to have this excellent article here for now and maybe forever. Also, it is very well done and I really enjoyed watching this 5-minute movie. It is much better time spent than much of what comes out of Hollywood. It is high class! Plus the fact that we are watching world history. Nations are pushing back, and it would not be so except for what you see in this movie. Did I mention that the music is great? The Edward Snowden article is about one person. The events he has put into motion are now bigger than that one person. The article here should stand. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 22:09, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It seems you're enamored with a 5-minute instafilm. I'm not sure why that means it passes the WP:N test. We don't need more than a sentence or two about this in the Snowden article (if at all), so your length concerns are not an issue. --Nstrauss (talk) 07:08, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This film is notable because of the WP:GNG principle: "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article or stand-alone list." - Wikipedia is a tertiary source, so it's a matter of following what other sources (newspapers) cover. There has been an immense amount of coverage on this film, in multiple languages, in multiple publications, and over time. The filmmakers have been interviewed by The Guardian and there was a piece on Andrew Cromeek, the actor playing Snowden, in The Wall Street Journal. So therefore I think this article should exist, and the Snowden article should have a sentence on Verax. Will there be other films? Yes. Do these films exist yet? No. There is also Wikipedia:Notability (films) but the supplementary criteria there do not yet apply to Verax, WhisperToMe (talk) 23:28, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is this an RS?[edit]

WhisperToMe (talk) 00:12, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Copies of Stephanie Ip AP article[edit]

WhisperToMe (talk) 14:53, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Additional non-English sources[edit]

Languages which have sources about Verax, but don't yet have articles on Verax: Croatian, Danish, Italian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Serbian, Slovene, Vietnamese

WhisperToMe (talk) 19:51, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Floro[edit]

WhisperToMe (talk) 12:03, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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