Talk:Vicky Ford

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Parliamentary Expenses[edit]

I have removed a number of party political points from this article including;

1. A description of Politico Europe as Niche - this is opinion and designed to disparage the point. Politico is a large political news organisation with offices in many countries ^[1]

2. Removal of references to GCSE and A-Level grading and laptops provision none of which are in VFs portfolio ^[2]

3. Removal of reference to voting on opposition day debate. The government always votes against opposition day motions which are purely designed for political purposes (see here for more about this)^[3]. Why not include every vote - they are all available on other websites

4. Reference to food parcels. While true that some people posted food parcels on social media the government hotline received just 7 complaints out of a total of 1.4 million recipients of free school meals. So arguably a social media storm with little background in reality ^[4]

Reference to "managing to unite those who …" which is comment and opinion, not fact

Removed reference to parliamentary expenses - these do not routinely appear on MPs wiki pages, VF expenses are not remarkable (pretty much average for all MPs) so it does not seem to be relevant. They are freely available at other sites ^[5]

In principle all the previous changes are politically inspired and unbalanced

MrFixed (talk) 18:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hecker removed from Chelmsford cathedral for confronting conservative Mp Vicky Ford over her party failure on brexit and not promising another referendum 'Is this your party's democracy the person shouted

Recent revisions appear to be politically motivated and not factually correct. For instance “voted against a movement to provide free school meals for vulnerable children”.

In fact the vote was against an opposition motion asking to extend the provision of free school meals to the holiday period at 24 hours notice. “This house calls on the government to continue directly funding provision of free school meals over the school holidays until Easter 2021 to prevent over a million children going hungry over this crisis” ^[6]

Regardless of your feelings about the rights or wrongs of the debate this post suggest that Mrs Ford voted against the provision of free school meals in general which is clearly not the case. In fact Vicky Ford established the first ever scheme to provide such meals in spring and summer 2020. No government has ever before made such provision

These motions which are useful to enable a discussion of subjects the Government might prefer to avoid are commonly used by the opposition so that a distorted claim can be made eg it can be claimed that an MP voted against ... (eg saving children’s lives, support for the elderly etc) but they have no force or effect and because they are opposition motions the Government will normally oppose them. All ministers are expected to vote with the Government so a vote against such a motion is normally universal.

Similarly the posting of her expense claims (which are similar to those of other MPs) seems irrelevant, and is not widely included in the biographies of members of parliament unless they are contested or excessive

I would suggest these recent entries are removed or re-edited appropriately

92.30.88.84 (talk) 22:37, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I would ask that you try to reword the edits before just removing them. I’m not going to revert your removal as per WP:3RR. Skingo12 (talk) 18:23, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The removed content was sourced to a primary public document, a BBC article that didn't mention the subject, and the subject's Twitter account. None of these sources are appropriate for claims about living persons—except sometimes the subject's Twitter account, but that tweet doesn't actually support the claims being made. In fact, none of the sources support the claims being made. This is absolutely content that needs to be removed until it can be sourced appropriately. Woodroar (talk) 19:42, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I support the recent removal by MrFixed of what appeared to be some unbalanced political points and opinions. I support the reasons that MrFixed gave for doing so and also agree with Woodroar about BLP sources. It's important that as a WP:BLP article the biography has a neutral tone, WP:NPOV, avoiding personal opinions. If any editors might have grievances about individual government ministers or issues like food parcels and free school meals, then there are blogs to air such views. But Wikipedia should remain neutral. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 02:09, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

The Recognition of Somaliland Republic[edit]

Vicky Ford my name is Ahmed jama Abdi and Iam citizen of Somaliland republic and the people of Somaliland republic they are seeking their Recognition as nation for 30 years and now they need your support please don’t be sided the federal of Somalia they are the one who genocide our fathers our brothers and sisters I my self they shot me Three times and I did survived thanks to god they Did threat us like animals since we were United with them I urge to ask you pleae support and help somalilanders 2601:243:823:A38:4C42:84E9:1B07:17C9 (talk) 06:31, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

portfolio[edit]

She seems to have been given responsibility for (overseas) development, perhaps a welcome return to the days of a separate DFID. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ministerial-appointments-september-2022 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:5988:EC00:E156:14A9:781B:BAFE (talk) 16:43, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bernard plumb[edit]

Hi Vicky if you come to Balsham can I have a chat with you. Regards Bernard 46.208.201.152 (talk) 19:01, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politico_Europe

[2] ttps://www.gov.uk/government/news/department-for-education-ministerial-portfolios-confirmed

[3] ttps://politicsteaching.com/2020/09/11/do-opposition-days-in-parliament-really-matter/

[4] ttps://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2021-01-18/debates/2954DE2B-BE9B-436D-AEA9-2A2F8DAB5CA7/details

[5] ttps://www.mpsexpenses.info/?#!/mp/933

[6] ttps://Hansard.parliament.Uk/Commons/2020-10-21/debates/79C0CA8D-CADF-4562-9317-5A51810BB5DE/FreeSchoolMeals

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