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Important items to add

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Victor Papanek has served as head of the Department of Product Design at North Carolina State College's School of Design (http://d.lib.ncsu.edu/collections/catalog/0003526). What is Papanek's middle name? I have not found it in the "Victor J. Papanek Foundation" website or other places. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prof.Doc.Pro.Do.CE.of.J (talk • contribs) 02:21, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lead obsessed with iconoclastism

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The lead is so preoccupied with framing Victor as an iconoclast, it barely notes his accomplishments. — MaxEnt 20:06, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discrepancies

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I have noticed there is a lot of published discrepancies about Victor Papanek - including his year of birth (1923 vs 1927), his date of immigration into the United States (1932 vs 1939), and dates for his education and degrees. I am adding a note here so that we can hopefully document the process of deciding these details and any related citations. Jooojay (talk) 03:20, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Birth 1927: [1][2]
  • Birth 1923: [3][4][5][6]
  • Immigration to US in 1932: [7]
  • Immigration to US in 1939: [8][9][10]
  • Graduated from Cooper Union in 1948 (degrees in architecture and industrial design): [11]
Additional discrepancies include the day of birth - today it was changed to the 22nd, based on wikidata and a citation.[12] Please use this space to discuss further. Jooojay (talk) 02:54, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Victor Papanek". Industrial Designers Society of America - IDSA. 2010-01-16. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  2. ^ Rawsthorn, Alice (2011-05-15). "Victor Papanek: An Early Champion of Good Sense". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  3. ^ "Victor Papanek - Announcements - e-flux". www.e-flux.com. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  4. ^ "Victor Papanek: The Politics of Design -". World-Architects. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  5. ^ "Victor Papanek: The Politics of Design Opens at Vitra Design Museum". 24700 CalArts. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  6. ^ "Victor J. Papanek im Vitra Design Museum Weil am Rhein". www.architekturzeitung.com. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  7. ^ "Victor Papanek - Announcements - e-flux". www.e-flux.com. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  8. ^ Rawsthorn, Alice (2011-05-15). "Victor Papanek: An Early Champion of Good Sense". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  9. ^ "Victor Papanek: The Politics of Design -". World-Architects. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  10. ^ "Victor Papanek: The Politics of Design Opens at Vitra Design Museum". 24700 CalArts. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  11. ^ "Victor Papanek - Announcements - e-flux". www.e-flux.com. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  12. ^ "Viktor Papanek". en.isabart.org. Retrieved 2020-07-03.

Important work

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The lengthy "Important work" section is poorly written and is the writer's view of Papanek's views - all without any substantiation or citation. It adds nothing to the factual record, and nothing of value to the Wikipedia article. I suggest that it be deleted. Designergene (talk) 17:28, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it has been tagged since August 2020 for clean up - it was removed today. Jooojay (talk) 13:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wow! Many thanks for all the great new work editing this article. Improved so much. My only quibble - whether the 'Personal life' section is really of any relevance. Designergene (talk) 17:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Designergene:, Hello! Thank you for your positive words. Yes, it's pretty standard to have a "personal life section" in Wikipedia bio articles. Most notable people are shaped by their families in some way, and it has been published in many books about Papanek - everything here falls within WP:RS. Jooojay (talk) 18:00, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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