Talk:Voting in the Council of the European Union
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Passing a vote versus blocking a vote
[edit]I don't think it makes sense to distinguish conditions to pass a vote and conditions to block a vote. The correct way to state the condition to pass a vote according to the Reform treaty is:
- the proposal must be backed by at least 55% (that is 15) of member states (or 72%, that is 20, if not acting on a proposal by the Commission), and
- the countries supporting the proposal represent at least 65% of the total EU population, or
- the proposal is supported by all countries except at most three (in other words, when this applies, the condition on the population is not required — the first condition is automatically satisfied, of course).
The way the article is currently worded makes you think there is a situation when the vote is not passed but not blocked either, which is absurd. Unless someone objects, I will rephrase this (and merge the section "Conditions to block a vote" in the section "Conditions to pass a vote"). --Gro-Tsen 11:59, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. Go ahead! --Roentgenium111 (talk) 20:35, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- When I see "blocking a vote", I take that to mean the use of dilatory tactics or other parliamentary procedure to keep a proposal from being brought to a vote, as a separate question from what the threshold for passage is if the proposal is voted on. --Dan Wylie-Sears 2 (talk) 17:46, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Population Requirement
[edit]Would it be worth mentioning Blocking Minority as a term? It is a very widespread and important concept? Ajem (talk) 14:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
I will research the combinations of votes that utilise the Population rule. I have nine so far... Ajem (talk) 14:03, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
NB the population figures need to be updated I think. Will do some digging.Ajem (talk) 14:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
QMV vs unanimous
[edit]Do we have an article that spells out which areas retain unanimous voting? Can Cyprus still veto the entry of Turkey? kwami (talk) 09:59, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- According to Enlargement of the EU, they can:
"According to the Maastricht Treaty, each current member state and the European Parliament must agree to any enlargement."
- (I don't know if the article is still up-to-date, though. But I think this specific hasn't changed.) --Roentgenium111 (talk) 20:40, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- Enlargement process requires unanimous decisions at various points (including final ratification by national parliaments), so technically Cyprus can veto any new member.
- As a general note - it would be beneficial if we have a list of decisions showing voting type (QMV/unanimous/etc.) - currently we have such list for the topics changed by the Lisbon treaty, but we don't have those that remain unchanged. Alinor (talk) 06:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Link to a redirect back to this article
[edit]Qualified majority voting redirects here, but has a link in this article. There's another link in this article, qualified majority voting that redirects to supermajority. It's not clear to me if there's a distinction that should be noted in the supermajority article, or what. --Dan Wylie-Sears 2 (talk) 17:56, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Question
[edit]I thought only European Commission has the right of initiative, so how can be threshold be raised to 72% if any initiative does not come from EC ?
Siyac 18:12, 08 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siyac (talk • contribs)
Another question
[edit]Does this article need to be updated to reflect Croatia, which is mentioned in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_state_of_the_European_Union, and http://europa.eu/about-eu/countries/member-countries/index_en.htm but not here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.0.51.128 (talk) 17:53, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
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