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A fact from Wa (watercraft) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 March 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in 1788 a wa (pictured) arrived in Spanish Guam, stating they had always traded there but stopped after witnessing European cruelty?

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Rigging/Sail[edit]

Article needs a reference and link for the rig and sail type. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:07, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Think I just passed over a good reference about traditional and modern sail cloth materials .. will try to dig it up. prat (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Got the sail material part done. As far as rigging goes, the rig on the images I have seen appears to be lateen, though I am certain that elsewhere nearby ... perhaps in far eastern Micronesia, definitely in parts of Polynesia and possibly the Philippines or New Guinea a crab claw sail is used. prat (talk) 20:23, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorted as well. prat (talk) 22:38, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

New sources[edit]

Try searching for caroline islands outrig* at Journal of the Polynesian Society (Auckland University). Lots of info there we can probably glean some more text from, though a lot of it is only reconfirmation (eg. trade relations) or tangential (eg. navigation techniques). prat (talk) 21:40, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Working my way through here... really loads of information. prat (talk) 08:28, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

citation format change[edit]

I did the Lauer quote and reference as a emplate sfn-ua and efn. I would like to do that with all the quotes that are in the footnotes. It puts in the exact page number into the efn. It was just intended to be an example. Doing it for all the citations and quotes will take some work. And if there is an objection from someone, particularly prat, then I will just undo this one edit, will defer to his judgment, and won't proceed on the change. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:05, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Too early in the morning for me to decode how that works ... I like the shortened citation format with cross-reference, however I don't particularly like the inline presentation or the way you then have to click the inline link, then click another link, in order to see what you're looking at. I think we may as well leave things as is .. while verbose, it's clear. prat (talk) 16:45, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I hope I didn't overstep. I've done all the citations except for McCoy and a couple of others. It is (opinion) cleaner than the alternative. Repeating complete citations just makes this unduly verbose (another opinion). But if you feel strongly, have at it. The new citation format is (usually) to the exact page in the sfn. Please note that I did add quite a bit of information to all of the citations, so I hope we don't throw out the baby with the bath. Beautiful article. Best regards. 7&6=thirteen (☎)

It's OK. I agree it looks better, it's just more obtuse to get to the ref if you're a reader. Except one thing... there's an error in the efn template at the top of the article right now ;) prat (talk) 22:39, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I hope there are no errors. I will finish off most of McCoy. I don't know what happens when you go past "Z" in a UA. The formatting of the footnotes got better once the citations got below the references. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:12, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected the errors. Basically, I'm done with the citations, unless you think there should be other "efn-ua"s. You can see for yourself what happens when you go past "Z". Worked out very well, I think. Cheers! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:37, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Anson"[edit]

"They were estimated by Anson in 1776 to be able to move..." Wait. "Anson" in an 18th century nautical context must indicate the famous circumnavigator George Anson, 1st Baron Anson. "Lord Anson", as one should ordinarily say, however, was dead in 1775. Who is this Anson the editor would appear to be so familiar with, leaving us in the dark?--Wetman (talk) 02:34, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gosh - such extensive footnotes! They seem be longer than the article itself! Not the sort of thing one expects in an encyclopedia.

Yes, following the link to the JPS, it is the 15th edition of George Anson's account of his Voyage around the World in the Years 1740-4, published in London in 1776. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.220.189 (talk) 09:12, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]