Talk:We Remember: A Reflection on the Shoah

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Hitler's Pope[edit]

Is it possible that this document made it easier to accredit the controverial thesis about Hitler's Pope, which accused Pius XII of having colaborated with the Nazis ? While the text We Remember was published in 1998, and was widely interpreted as an admission of guilt on the part of the Church, Hitler's Pope came out only one year later. In any event, there is a vast difference between the two accounts, and for the Church to denounce the actions of certain laymen or priests at that time does not at all mean that the papacy knowingly and actively collaborated with the Third Reich. In fact, Pope Pius XII was almost kidnapped by the Nazis in 1943 and had planned to move the Holy See to a neutral country such as Portugal. ADM (talk) 16:51, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While Pope Pius was certainly not an active collaborator in the Holocaust, he completely failed to denounce it while it was going on. After the war, the only thing that he could point to was a single ambiguous paragraph in his Christmas message of 1943. If he did not know of the existence of the Holocaust, then every single papal diplomat in Nazi-occupied Europe should have been fired for gross incompetence. Yet We Remember fails to mention that there is a controversy over what Pius did or failed to do. JHobson3 (talk) 17:54, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]