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BetacommandBot 16:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted the following sentence, because the short explanation of high and low german is totally wrong:

"...(as it originated in its purest form in and around the city of Hanover) and hardcore Low German, although the latter is mostly a dying language in reality."

The interested reader will probably find a correct explanation of the origins of northern (low german) and southern (high german) languages, how Martin Luthers translation of the bible into high german was responsible for the decline of low german language, why high german dialects like bavarian, swabian, allemannic dialects (...) are still alike and why the region of Hannover is known for speaking high german mostly without any low or high german dialect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.223.252.47 (talk) 20:31, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There's a difference between written German (as majorly shaped by Luther) and spoken High German. As early as the early 19th century, northern German pronounciation as found in and around Hannover was favored in influential recommendation works on Bühnendeutsch for stage actors, which is where the northern German pronounciation as the de-facto modern standard comes from. Southern German is far from High German, as a Southern German, if they try to speak High German, will speak it almost like wenik or Könik, while the standard High German pronounciation is wenich, Könich, etc., which is the pronounciation that originated in northern Germany, particularly in and around Hannover. It's true that Low German was once spoken in northern Germany, but when northerners tried to read out and adopt Luther's German ever since he translated the Bible, modern spoken High German was the result, which in its standard spoken form is spoken with a northern German accent, as in the two examples given above.

Basically, written High German is Luther's Saxon German with a few southern forms in writing, whereas the modern standard pronounciation of High German is northern. How a few Schluchtenscheißer are pronouncing it in their Alpine villages below the Weißwurstäquator is simply not High German, no matter how much they try to equal "High" with "southern" by implying that anybody north of the Benrath line speaks nothing but Low German which is what things were like centuries ago, if ever. But it's what you get for never leaving your Alpine villages during all that time and never getting to hear any real High German. --2003:48:2E4C:B125:7134:5C83:20A5:E29D (talk) 10:32, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]