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Argentina - no mention of the Welsh in Patagonia

The Welsh were pioneers of the opening up of Argentine Patagonia in the 19th century and there are still Welsh speakers there today. This is not mentioned in this article even though there is a separate wikipage about it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=welsh+patagonia&oq=welsh+patagonia&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.5253j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.93.72.220 (talk) 6:07, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

One Drop rule in Argentina studies

The one drop rule establishes that even if one grand-grand parent was Amerindian, the person is considered Amerindian, regardless of the other seven grand-grand parents being pure white. Similarly, if one grand-grand parent was black, the person is black or mestizo, even when they may look striklingly European. People must have full European ancestry to be regarded as white in the forementioned studies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2800:40:28:1155:31E3:7264:B813:41D1 (talk) 03:03, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

White Latin Americans: Hard to quantify

Since most latin americans are mixed race, only a blood ancestry study or an AI analyzing images could determine a reasonable number. If you ask people if they feel white, some complexes could appear on the answer since for some countries (being white gives you socialstatus). Some errors are that, in Brazil most people do not view themselves as black (since this gives you a low social status) and only 7% answer that they feel black, however accourding to some analytic and blood studies, the black population should double that number. Other was if ask if you feel white, more chileans said in proportion that they feel white than argentineans, which is completly mistaken, since analytic and blood studies suggest way more euroean bloodline on Argentina than in Chile. I recommend checking again those numbers on the table with more reliable information, rather than just polls asking people how they feel. 93.240.150.37 (talk) 16:19, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article documents both self-identity and genetic makeup. Neither is "wrong", even if the percentages ~~are~~ seem contradictory. Dhtwiki (talk) 03:44, 22 July 2023 (UTC) (edited 07:48, 23 July 2023 (UTC))[reply]

Eliminate Colombia's false data on the number of white population

In the article, Colombia appears with 13 million whites, but the two attached sources do not mention these figures anywhere, but rather much smaller ones.

The first source is a study (not scientific or biological) by the Mexican academic Francisco Lizcano Fernández called "Composición Étnica de las Tres Áreas Culturales del Continente Americano al Comienzo del Siglo XXI", and the numbers he gives are the following, I quote (page 198) "...the countries that contain the most Criollos (whites) are Brazil (51%), Argentina (17%) and, with almost 15 million, Mexico (8%); while Colombia and Chile have around 8 million each.."

Then this same author groups Colombia among the Afro-mestizo countries together with Venezuela (pages 196 and 197); then he groups the Afro-Criollos countries: Cuba, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and Brazil (page 197); and finally groups the Criollos (or white) countries: Uruguay, Argentina, Costa Rica and Chile (p. 197). The indomestizo and mestizo countries are grouped in the following order: Guatemala, Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia, and Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua and Paraguay (p. 196)

https://www.scielo.org.mx/pdf/conver/v12n38/2448-5799-conver-12-38-185-s1.pdf

The second source cited is a study (actually a census) called "Latinobarómetro 2023 Colombia" on page 43 of which there are some figures from a census of self-perception " Raza/Etnia a la que pertenece", showing a total of 22.8 (274) self-perceived white Colombians. Now, in the same study on Chile ("Latinobarómetro 2023 Chile"), on page 49, the census shows a total of 45.9 (551) self-perceived white Chileans.

https://www.latinobarometro.org/lat.jsp

https://www.latinobarometro.org/latContents.jsp

Javehgt (talk) 11:52, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]