Talk:William Williams Pantycelyn

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The photo of Willimas is from the book printed by the Arts Council in 1983, unless permission has been obtained this may result in copyright infringement, no acknowledgements seem to be in the article for this photograph. Ieuan Sant (talk) 16:10, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This drawing is the only known image of William Williams, Pantycelyn; reportedly it was a sketch made as he was preaching. It is widely reproduced in print and other media (commemorative items, stained glass etc.) Given its age, the image is unlikely to be subject to current copyright.John M Brear (talk) 20:49, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Birthplace[edit]

I am puzzled by the statement that he was born at Pantycelyn between Abergwesyn and Beulah. Having visited this area many times over the last 40 years I am only aware on one Pantycelyn, and that is halfway between the A40 east of Llandovery and Babel, along narrow roads. According to Gomer Roberts. writing on a page of the National Library of Wales (http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-WILL-WIL-1717.html) it is this Pantycelyn where he was born. "b. in 1717 at Cefn-coed , Llanfair-ar-y-bryn, Carms." "went to live at his mother's old home, Pantycelyn." The Pantycelyn farm is (or was ten years ago when I visited) still owned and run by his descendants. I am wondering if someone has confused his curacy at Llanwrtwd, whose parish included Abergwesyn, and Beulah with Babel. As a dumb Englishman perhaps I missed missed some vital aspects of Welsh history, so I'll not edit it (yet). Perhaps someone knows better? There is a sign at the entrance to the farm (you can see it on Google Street view) that includes the picture referred to above. An old print of it also hangs in St David's Church, Llanwrtwd, further evidence that there should not be copyright issues. DigbyJames (talk) 16:59, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wesley brothers globe-trotting?[edit]

Under "Religious figure", it says:

"... the brothers Charles and John Wesley, both Anglican priests, broke with the Moravian church ..."

I suspect someone was trying to Czech whether we're all reading carefully enough. TooManyFingers (talk) 16:54, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]