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a Google search[edit]

Wisconsin Motors LLC (Waukesha, WI) in Dun and Bradstreet (EDIT: these must be old numbers)
Wisconsin Motors LLC (Dyer TN) in Dun and Bradstreet (EDIT: these must be old numbers)
Wisconsin Motors LLC (Dyer TN) in BBB (fuel conversion engines, since 2000)
Wisconsin engines at DAC Industrial Engines (distributor)
Wisconsin Motors LLC manuals at Pitt Auto parts sales site (2018)
Wisconsin Motors Still Going Strong After 105 Years (2013) at Farm Show magazine (five free stories and you can download)
Wisconsin-Stutz Racing Engine at The Old Motor magazine
Odds and ends including history and sales brocures at a 2007 aftermarket parts site Sammy D III (talk) 03:00, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
End of Subaru from some distributor.
K.S. and H.H.C. acquire V&L Tools at Businesswire.com
Wisconsin Engines LLC Tennessee Dept. Of State Business Registration (2018) info from Bizapedia.com
Wisconsin Engines LLC 2019 Personal Prop Assessment (PDF p. 149]
Wisconsin Engines LLC 2020 Personal Prop Assessment (PDF p.267)(address only, it's a small office/warehouse)

(EDIT: I have added some) Sammy D III (talk) 11:16, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Names[edit]

1969 Wisconsin Motor Corp. Milwaukee WI at a company catalogue
1979 Teledyne Wisconsin Motor Milwaukee WI at some company propaganda
1993 Wisconsin Motors LLC Memphis TN parts manual at a parts sales site (2018)
1993 Wis-Con Total Power Corp. Memphis TN water-cooled diesel manual at a parts sales site (2018)
2001 Wisconsin Motors LLC owned by V&L Tools. Both have address 2021 McArthur Waukesha WI
2001? Wisconsin Motors LLC Dyer TN
2006 Continental (water-cooled) manual at a parts sales site (2018)
2010 V&L (WI) machines, Wisconsin Motors (TN) assembles [1]
2014 V&L changes ownership
2014 Wisconsin Engines LLC Dyer TN registered (name change?)
2018 V&L bankrupt
2019 Wisconsin Engines LLC at 230 S Prairie Waukesha WI
2020 V&L is still in business from some blog

(EDIT: I have added some) Sammy D III (talk) 21:41, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Sammy for all your efforts. I'm not telling you anything you don't know but for the record I think the problem is that the original manufacturers stopped building the engines because the Japanese and Chinese manufacturers' products were good enough and too cheap. So Teledyne Wisconsin (or its owners) stopped being a manufacturer and became agents for the Asian manufacturers then decided there was not enough money in it and sold what remained of their importing business to Nesco who quickly flicked it on to VLTool? Maybe Subaru / Fuji dropped any association at all with Wisconsin.

Maybe other small businesses took on the old Wisconsin Motors name and they are Wisconsin Motors LLC and Wisconsin Engines LLC? But that's another of my not good enough guesses and I think we have to find that publishedt as a fact in hard copy somewhere. But I guess when a business has taken 20 or 30 years to die and somebody unrelated uses the old name it gets difficult to reliably describe what's happened - unless you have easy access to all the records in Wisconsin and Tennessee and Lord knows where else.

Should this article be deleted on the grounds it tells us something but not enough? Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 23:58, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

They were a manufacturer, not a distributor. (EDIT: they also were distributor for Robin, sorry. Sammy D III (talk) 18:38, 23 July 2020 (UTC)) I think it was a pick-up-the-pieces deal when somebody else dumped them. V&L Tools is a high-dollar machine-shop, Dyer TN was assembly. ~~Could Subaru have been the distributor of an American engine???~~. Newest model I could find had US SAE with (metric) measurements. Subaru stopped selling in 2017, V&L went bankrupt in 2018. Coincidence?[reply]

Why delete it? Views are bigger than I would have thought, maybe someone will play with it. Should be easy to improve, huh? I'll probably drop a little more. Have a good day/night. Sammy D III (talk) 03:18, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Language?[edit]

@Eddaido:. What language do you want this in? US for US company? It's NZ now? Your call. Sammy D III (talk) 16:17, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oops! Sorry, please translate to US. Will be interested to see the amendments. Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 02:39, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]