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Copyright violation from here. At the very bottom of the page he says that he took it from some doctor's Geocities website. -zappa 03:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I think that Nhaque might be the copyright holder of this text. -Doormatty

The site says: "... are also free to copy from theses under the normal provisions of scholarly fair dealing so long as they do not infringe the copyright of the author." There is no explicit release by the author, asserting his copyright and his subsequent release.

BTW I don't see that this particular text is very desirable as a Wikipedia entry. It is focussed on a particular aspect rather than dealing with the subject in a general matter. It is cluttered, readability is poor. Etc, etc. Brya 08:55, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I contributed most part of this entry, although I saw some reorganisation and good editing has been undertaken by others. This is an overview of wood drying, particularly focusing in Australasian context. This is a specialised area and I did not find comprehensive online information available around on this topic. If the aim of Wikipedia is to dessiminate knowledge free to everyone, then I think this entry should be included. However, if people from other parts of the world find appropriate to edit to include their experiences, it will improve the content. NHaque 19 April 2006

Another reference (North American this time) is the US Forest Products Laboratory's Dry Kiln Operator’s Manual and a bunch of others at Technology Handbooks and Reference Materials the FPL's web site. Luigizanasi 03:48, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Drying vs. seasoning

In the "Wood drying" section, I changed the opening sentence from "Wood drying (not to be confused with "seasoning")..." to just "Wood drying...". The other sections of this article (including the article's first sentence!) equate drying and seasoning; Dictionary.com seems to as well. I'm guessing this was just an artifact of merging articles? I'm not an expert on the topic, so feel free to change back if I'm mistaken, but for people not familiar w/ the subject matter, this article at least needs (consistent) clarification on the difference between drying and seasoning, if there is one. --Peter 19:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Drying and seasoning can be used interchangably. Seasoning refers to more of natural process whereas artificial seasoning is drying. Essentially the process is drying or removal of water from wood whether it is done in the sun or artificially in a kiln. In the olden days, without modern kiln drying technology, wood was dried in the air to climatise with seasonal variation in weather. Now-a-days majority of wood drying in done in controlled environment in industrial kilns although natural drying still exists. Nawshad Haque, 30 October 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.111.234.31 (talk) 09:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Siau Misquoted

This quote is made on the wikipage: "Relative humidity: The relative humidity of air is defined as the partial pressure of water vapour divided by the saturated vapour pressure at the same temperature and total pressure (Siau, 1984)." Can anyone please provide a source for this quote? I doubt very much that Siau would have defined relative humidity with "pressure" as part of the equation. This is simply not the way relative humidity is calculated. The presence of other "air" molecules has no bearing upon the partial vapor pressure of the humidity compared to the saturation vapor pressure (more appropriately called equilibrium vapor pressure) at that temperature.

I suggest that the reference to "pressure" in his quote is removed. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moldenboy (talk • contribs) 16:56, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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There is nothing in the article mentioning that sometimes (especially for oak trees), after being cut, the entire trunk is immerged under water for years before being dried. This process make the wood become more resistant in time. Does someone know more about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.216.76.210 (talk) 08:40, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

I suggest Fire hardening be merged into Wood drying. The Fire hardening article is a two sentence article (and has only consisted of two sentences since creation in 2005) which describes how wood can be hardened by heating it over a fire to drive off moisture. This appears to be a specific case of wood drying and could therefore be incorporated into the wood drying article. TacitSilence (talk) 09:11, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, they're quite unrelated. Fire hardening is also somewhat inaccurate in describing the process as being merely "drying". Andy Dingley (talk) 09:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That suggests that one sentence in the two sentence Fire hardening article is factually incorrect. I'd welcome any suggestions on any alternative ways of dealing with the Fire hardening article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TacitSilence (talk • contribs) 09:36, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest that a new section labeled "fire-polishing" be created and merged with "fire-hardening." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vango42 (talk • contribs) 08:47, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware that fire seasoning (page 191) was a common method of treating fence posts etc. in past centuries, but is not yet mentioned in the article wood drying. I do not think the articles fire hardening and wood drying are unrelated but in this case do serve very different purposes. It does not seem that fire hardening is a big enough topic to have it's own article so maybe make it a disambiguation page leading to an article on primitive skills or history of weapons which could include a discussion of fire hardening or to wood drying. Jim Derby (talk) 17:53, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is not just about weapons. fire hardening process is valuable for making many tools. 174.137.226.89 (talk) 17:51, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I concur. Fire-hardening is a well-documented process in its own right, but it is poorly understood outside of the realm of archaeology. It is hardly a component of modern wood-working. I would advise instead notated cross-references under Toolmaking ---> History, Woodworking ---> History, and Weapon Making (the latter, unfortunately, is a mere redirect to Bladesmithing). This article should certainly be expanded. Gnerphk (talk) 13:24, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Decorative veneer Information

how do to silver grey or dyed veneer of decorative veneer ?

The veneer is dyed or bleached beforehand. Usually this is done by a veneer maker, and the cabinetmaker would buy it ready coloured. Some of the bleach chemicals are quite unpleasant. The species of veneer is also chosen, for the results when bleached. Silver grey would often be ash, sycamore, sometimes oak (bleached with oxalic acid) or an Indian species, white chuglam. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:22, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]