Talk:XO-2Nb

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was retracting move of XO-2b.

Requested move

XO-2b → XO-2 b — The basic links to these extrasolar planets all poses a space between the designation. The main reason that the space is sometimes omitted is mainly laziness or fast typing. — NuclearVacuum 15:32, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

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• Oppose. Papers mentioning this planet (e.g. Bakos 2007, the discovery paper Burke 2007, Burrows 2007, Lopez-Morales 2007, Kane 2008, Burrows 2008, Fortney 2008, Johns-Krull 2008) use the designation XO-2b, with no space. In addition, SIMBAD [1] uses XO-2b with no space. The use by the Extrasolar Planets Enyclopaedia of a space is inconclusive since this source uniformly uses lower-case letters preceded by a space for planet designators even when, as in the case of PSR B1257+12, this is definitely wrong. (According to this discussion, this is due to a software limitation.) Spacepotato (talk) 17:32, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

This shouldn't affect how the majority of astronomers state. Also, several discovery papers have the planet with no space (HD 209458 b was called "HD 209458b" in its discovery paper and still is called that in NASA and other news articles [2] [3] [4]). This space is not just used for planets, it is used for stars as well. The space is commonly used for public references (not so much scientific reference). — NuclearVacuum 18:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Since the preferred designator for HD 209458 b in the astronomical literature appears to be HD 209458b, with no space, the HD 209458 b article should be moved to HD 209458b. This appears to be preferred in popular references as well (37,000 v. 7,450 hits on Google.) Spacepotato (talk) 18:22, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

That is not nessessary. In the astronomical majority always leave a space between the system and the object (no matter what). This is not about HD 209458 b (which I better not see be moved), this is about XO-2 b. — NuclearVacuum 19:08, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Your statement that the majority of astronomers use a space is not correct. A SIMBAD search found the papers above which used XO-2b, and I found no papers which used XO-2 b. Likewise, a Google Scholar search shows a preponderance of papers using HD 209458b (777 hits) rather than HD 209458 b (156 hits.) Spacepotato (talk) 19:34, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

A space is always used for any astronomical object. Some websites (like SIMBAD) hardly separate the system name (XO-1) from the object name (B). Look at any article and you will aways see a space. There isn't even a clear reason why this is. — NuclearVacuum 19:42, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

If there's no reason for adding the space, I would suggest not doing so. Spacepotato (talk) 19:52, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Placing a space between the system and the object is commonly used and should be exercised (no one says "51 Pegasib"). A space is used so there is no confusion between the system and the object name. — NuclearVacuum 19:58, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

There isn't any confusion in this case because the system's designation ends with a string of numbers rather than a word. This is a difference between designators like 51 Pegasi and ε Eridani and designators like XO-2, WASP-1 and HD 209458. Spacepotato (talk) 20:03, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose per Spacepotato... seems like Original Research / Things Made Up in School type proposal. 70.55.86.139 (talk) 04:51, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

• Retract because I think I get how to name planets via SIMBAD and binary star names. — NuclearVacuum 00:36, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

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