Talk:Yang Jianli

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Biography

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article has been automatically rated by a bot or other tool because one or more other projects use this class. Please ensure the assessment is correct before removing the `\|auto=` parameter.

Law Low‑importance

	Law portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Law, an attempt at providing a comprehensive, standardised, pan-jurisdictional and up-to-date resource for the legal field and the subjects encompassed by it.LawWikipedia:WikiProject LawTemplate:WikiProject Lawlaw articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

China Mid‑importance

	China portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject China, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of China related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ChinaWikipedia:WikiProject ChinaTemplate:WikiProject ChinaChina-related articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

United States Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

International relations Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject International relations, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of International relations on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.International relationsWikipedia:WikiProject International relationsTemplate:WikiProject International relationsInternational relations articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

No citations[edit]

There's not a single citation in this article, except to something the subject wrote.

At least the bit about him being "blacklisted" deserves a source and some elaboration.

Son of eugene (talk) 03:04, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Add citations

Heey, you are totally right! I added some citations for the article, but some passages are still without (Petitioning by lawmakers and academics). But I can´t find a good one for "...,who also refused to renew his passport." Greetings to the wiki community :) --Princheeseanastasia (talk) 10:37, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Yang Jianli. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20040810113507/http://www.freedom-now.org/jianli.php to http://www.freedom-now.org/jianli.php

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 18:57, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Significant neutrality, style, grammatical, and formatting issues[edit]

Four classes of issues on this article:

Neutrality
Frequent references to China violating international law, to the point where it's redundant and serves little more than poster-signing and gaslighting:

He was detained when trying to board a domestic flight, and held incommunicado by the Chinese in violation of their own and international law. His wife and children, as well as his extended family, were denied access and were concerned for his health and safety while he was in prison. The advocacy group Freedom Now took up his case. On May 28, 2003, United Nations working group on arbitrary detention ruled that Yang Jianli has been held by the Chinese government in violation of international law

Some additional issues with this excerpt alone:

Does it really matter if his family (specifically) was "concerned for his health and safety" - and if so, can it be rewritten to reduce the pathos in the sentence (i.e. "his detainment caused concern for his well-being" etc.)
UN working groups cannot "rule" this-or-that; they can only find some fact or finding. The use of the word "rule" creates a false sense of legal and moral objectivity and superiority, a notable characteristic not of neutral writing but of political propaganda.
Boarding a flight using forged documentation is unlawful practically everywhere. From whence does "violating... [Chinese] and international law" come into the calculus?

Separate excerpts:

On August 4, 2003, the United States called on China to free Yang - what does "free" mean? Ought there not be more specificity with respect to the exact request or demand put forth by the United States?

Reminded of his experience with the June 4, Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 for freedom of speech and democracy, Yang's recent article in the Washington Post shortly after his return to United States reflects his vivid observation of the 2007 Burmese anti-government protests, spiritually coined as Saffron Revolution, including China's 'parasitic relationship with Burma' and the genuine will of freedom loving intellectuals around the world condemning the current brutal oppressions in Burma - aside from the fact that one can barely understand the contents of this quote, the present use of such terminology is blatantly analytical and demonstrates clear political leaning.

I also note that the sources used in this article are right-leaning and typically borderline extremist sources of dubious accuracy and questionable standing. Many could use a source review.

Style
Frequent problems with citations in the middle of sentences and in confusing locations otherwise inconsistent with the MOS.

Grammar
This is a big one.

On April 10, 2006, 119 US lawmakers urged Bush to raise Yang Jianli's case. Same year September 3, Yang Jianli was released on condition that he must leave from China immediately. But he insisted that he return to his hometown to sweep his father's tomb first. As a result, he was sent back to jail from the airport

Reminded of his experience with the June 4, Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 for freedom of speech and democracy, Yang's recent article in the Washington Post shortly after his return to United States reflects his vivid observation of the 2007 Burmese anti-government protests, spiritually coined as Saffron Revolution, including China's 'parasitic relationship with Burma' and the genuine will of freedom loving intellectuals around the world condemning the current brutal oppressions in Burma

In March 2018, Yang was invited to speak by advocacy group UN Watch in the UN Human Rights Council but Chinese diplomat Chen Cheng repeatedly interrupted in a failed attempt to halt the address. There, questioned the Chinese Communist Party's right to represent China at the UN body as well as the country's human rights abuses

Formatting
This is a bit rich, but there are frequent formatting issues littering the article. Augend (drop a line) 04:29, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong birth date?[edit]

Wasn't he actually born on July 15, not August 15? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 07:34, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]