Talk:Yaroslavl Oblast
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Oblast people died in GPW[edit]
As the entire population, according to information to find on the russian wikipedia, was quite around 1,4 Million (in no case 2 Million), a loss of 200,000 would not count for 1/10 - but 1/7. Is there any source for this appalling (nearly unbelievable) rate ? --129.187.244.28 (talk) 09:05, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
- I don't have anything handy to corroborate the loss figure, but for what it's worth, the population of Yaroslavl Oblast was reported to be ~2.3 mil at the 1939 Census (no article, really...), so at least in that regard the 10% rate corresponds.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 24, 2017; 13:19 (UTC)
- What ? ~2.3 mil at 1939 census ? - as I said: no way ! See: Population of Yaroslavl Oblast (in russian) --129.187.244.28 (talk) 13:56, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
- The Russian article you are pointing to does not include the 1939 Census data, only 1928 and 1959. 1959 is, of course, way after the war, and 1928 is before the oblast had even been established (which was in 1936). One can argue just how accurate the 1939 Census results really were, but the officially reported number was indeed 2.3 mil. You can easily verify that by finding the 1939 Census results yourself.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 5, 2017; 16:31 (UTC)
- Quite mysterious. But, I think you're right. Maybe over 2 million population around 1940, or a bit less (?). Who knows. Anyway, if some 200,000 names or so for Yaroslavl Oblast are recorded, a quota of 1 war dead per 10 or 11 inhabitants would result. --129.187.244.28 (talk) 09:52, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- P.S.: ! Not to forget a split of territory in 1944 from Yaroslavl Oblast to build the new Kostroma Oblast. That would explain a substantial reduction of inhabitants ! So, I think over 2 million for ~ 1940 would quite fit in. --129.187.244.28 (talk) 10:19, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- Quite mysterious. But, I think you're right. Maybe over 2 million population around 1940, or a bit less (?). Who knows. Anyway, if some 200,000 names or so for Yaroslavl Oblast are recorded, a quota of 1 war dead per 10 or 11 inhabitants would result. --129.187.244.28 (talk) 09:52, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- The Russian article you are pointing to does not include the 1939 Census data, only 1928 and 1959. 1959 is, of course, way after the war, and 1928 is before the oblast had even been established (which was in 1936). One can argue just how accurate the 1939 Census results really were, but the officially reported number was indeed 2.3 mil. You can easily verify that by finding the 1939 Census results yourself.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 5, 2017; 16:31 (UTC)
- What ? ~2.3 mil at 1939 census ? - as I said: no way ! See: Population of Yaroslavl Oblast (in russian) --129.187.244.28 (talk) 13:56, 31 August 2017 (UTC)