Talk:Yelena Isinbayeva

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Added the 5.01 record in the text but not yet in the tables, please add this asap. --Johan M 17:48, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Records indoor vs. outdoor[edit]

The records 4,83 (Donetsk, Feb 15, 2004), 4,85 (Athens, Feb 20, 2004) and 4,86 (Budapest, Mar 06, 2004) were not only valid as indoor world records, but were also valid as (outdoor) world records. This is due to IAAF regulation 260.6.a according to which "world records (as opposed to indoor world records) can be set at a facility 'with or without' a roof". This applies for results starting from year 2000. Therefore the term "outdoor world record" is somewhat misleading as the record can be achieved indoors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kesal (talk • contribs) 2 November 2006

The present table, indicating records with (I) or (O) is useful, insofar as it indicates the environment in which the record was obtained, so regardless of the applicability of indoor records to outdoors after 1999, it is useful to preserve the distinction. --Mareklug talk 08:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just added "O" to those records above set indoors which were also considered "outdoor" records. As the first editor here notes the actual distinction being made is "world record" vs "indoor world record", not "indoor/outdoor." As for the remarks about noting indoor/outdoor, Mareklug seems to miss the distinction here. If he sees a need to excise the "O" for those marks set indoors, then he is applying a criterion the IAAF itself does not apply. The distinction should be "WR" for world record and "I" for "indoor world record" Canada Jack (talk) 20:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This issue has cropped up again as someone has decided to make a distinction that the IAAF, the governing body of the sport, does not make. We don't have "indoor" and "outdoor" records, we have "World records" and "Indoor world records." And several of the indoor world records also stood as World records. I have corrected the progressions so as to reflect this - so the World Record list now includes the two marks which were set indoors, and I've added a note on this as well as the reference from the IAAF. Canada Jack (talk) 16:44, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Isinbayeva vs Isinbaeva[edit]

Her official site spells it without a y and IAAF is now spelling it without a y in their english reports. We should probably move article to Yelena Isinbaeva as it appears to be the correct English spelling. David D. (Talk) 16:12, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why don't they write Elena? 81.68.255.36 (talk) 12:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be no logic in these Елена's. Dementieva is without an Y, as seems to be in tennis. 85.217.50.155 (talk) 01:17, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I note that the page still hasn't moved. Was there some dissention about the move? Her new website is again without the y so it would appear to make sense for us to follow that. danno_uk 16:33, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Muslim?[edit]

Since her father is a Tabasaran, is she a muslim? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueflu (talk • contribs) 07:18, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

if she was muslim,her name wouldn't be Yelena but Fatima or Sakeena :)--217.78.231.248 (talk) 18:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Latest is not criterion for someone being Muslim. In Bosnia many of those having father Muslims are Muslims also, despite of their mother's religion. So, this question remains open.
--Čikić Dragan (talk) 13:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would think she's a Muslim since her mother would probably have converted to Islam after marrying. That usually happens in England anyway Spiderone (talk) 16:53, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yesterday at the World Championships, right after she jumped over 4.82 m, she made the Sign of the Cross. So it's quite unlikely that she's a Muslim... Stakkato365 (talk) 07:38, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, as you can see in this youtubevideo at 3:12 minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikSFmVs0sfA Urigatora (talk) 16:01, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

her religion is MONEY and SERVING PUTIN. Also, dopers should not hold on to their medals. 67.85.243.64 (talk) 19:59, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deliberate increments[edit]

I have read, and her performance history seems to suggest, that she is capable of maybe 5.10 or more and is deliberately breaking her own world record in small (1cm) increments in order to be able to break it multiple times (a highly lucrative endeavor). Is this worth noting? LukeSurl t c 14:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No original research allowed.--69.113.117.94 (talk) 01:37, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not OR if that can be cited. And I've heard it too, and I believe she has even said it. Canada Jack (talk) 20:19, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I also heard it many times during olympics commentary in local TV (Soledad Bacarreza + Aldo Schiapacasse, Canal 13 (Chile), 2008), but I'm sure the commentators got that idea from someone else, so I doubt I can put their names on a citation. But it's definitely not OR. More like popular rumour... Locoluis (talk) 12:53, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

She deliberatly goes up by 1cm to get prize money. Open meetings often pay out nicely for World Records so if she goes up by 1cm each time she gets more money in the long run. Can't be bothered to look for a reference but its true, I doubt she'd deny it and there is nothing wrong with it in any way. Cls14 (talk) 22:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that's a regular practice in pole-vaulting. Sergey Bubka did the same thing. 67.85.243.64 (talk) 20:00, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Track[edit]

I saw her on some Master pole vaulters champhionship, she jumped 5,00 meters there. Perhaps it was specific for that event, but every time she had to jump a certain techno/trance track played. Does she do that often or not? Is that known? Mallerd (talk) 10:51, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't noticed anything like that before. It may have been a one off but keep your eye out if it happens again. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 13:33, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will :) Mallerd (talk) 14:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seen her once outdoor in a Golden League meeting and at 3 indoor grand prixs and didn't hear the music. Don't even think she wears an iPod but might do as she often disappears under a towel whilst preparing! Cls14 (talk) 22:49, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Misinformation[edit]

The sentence containing the text "Isinbayeva courted controversy by appearing to come out in favour of a law banning "homosexual propaganda" in Russia" needs to be clarified to prevent misinformation. There is no law against "homosexual propaganda" in Russia, there is only a law against propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations to minors. In the interests of impartiality, the "TO MINORS" part is quite important. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.201.96.17 (talk) 11:16, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IP. Perhaps you are a newcomer to Wikipedia. There is a rather curious criteria for truth in Wikipedia to the effect that what is true is what is cited as true. You can read the details here Wikipedia:Verifiability. In this case sources all talk about "homosexual propaganda" or "gay propaganda" or "anti-gay" law and that is what is quoted. If Yelena had talked at her press conference about propaganda to minors as you put it, then it would indeed have been proper for that to be reported and noted in the article. But she did not, either in her press conference or her clarifying statement, and that was not was reported. In her clarifying statement she made no apology for her remarks, but said she had been misunderstood and she was not opposed to gsy sex, and that was noted in the article. Moreover in the article the phrase law banning "homosexual propaganda" in Russia is linked to the relevant section of the article LGBT rights in Russia, which makes it quite clear several times that what is talked about is propaganda amongst minors. If you feel it needs further empahsis and clarification, that is the place to malke the edits, not in Yelena's BLP. Elissa Rubria Honoria (talk) 12:27, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have now added a further remark documenting the response of the Swedish Olympic committee to the gesture by some of their athletes that had prompted Yelena's criticism, citing the Wall Street Journal, and which I trust addresses your concerns. Elissa Rubria Honoria (talk) 02:07, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Working group to rewrite Russian constitution[edit]

According to Tass, she was part of a working group tasked with rewriting Russia's Constitution (in favour of Putin). I feel this should be mentioned somewhere.

https://tass.com/politics/1109257

She also gave an interview in which she declares that she hadn't read it prior to taking part in that working group.

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1602362965449216012 Speaklanguages (talk) 06:32, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"I am not and have never been in the service of the armed forces of the Russian Federation"[edit]

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1139074/isinbayeva-was-in-army-says-matytsin Xx236 (talk) 06:30, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life information has to be updated[edit]

14th February 2018 Yelana gave birth to her second child, son Dobrynya. 173.246.136.139 (talk) 14:11, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2023[edit]

Change: "On 7 February 2014, Isinbayeva, while pregnant, was one of the final torch bearers for the 2014 Winter Olympics opening ceremony. She has one child, Eva, born 28 June 2014.[50]

TO: On 7 February 2014, Isinbayeva, while pregnant, was one of the final torch bearers for the 2014 Winter Olympics opening ceremony. She has two children: daughter Eva, born 28 June 2014, and son Dobrynya, born 14 February 2018.

Source (in Russian): https://www.championat.com/other/news-3395221-isinbaeva-okazyvaetsja-byt-mamoj-dvoih-detej-ne-tak-uzh-prosto.html Mobile actor (talk) 14:55, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done NotAGenious (talk) 12:37, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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