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Reviewer: Amitchell125 (talk · contribs) 18:20, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Hello HaEr48, happy to review the article for you.

Assessment

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Great research, an interesting read, and the article is sound in many ways, but there's quite a lot of copy editing to sort (details to follow). Amitchell125 (talk) 16:27, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead section / infobox

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Thanks for trying, I think it will do. Amitchell125 (talk) 19:26, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...or suspect that… - this sounds as if no historians considered both ideas to be true. ‘... the report's veracity is doubted and the details in it may be exaggerated…’ sounds better imo.
    Replaced using your suggestion. HaEr48 (talk) 18:38, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Early life

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Return to al-Andalus

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  • The link to circumcision doesn’t lead to where you expect, I would amend it to ‘Khitan (circumcision)’.
    Seems its already changed. HaEr48 (talk) 18:38, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...seven-year… should be ‘...seven years…’.
    Done. HaEr48 (talk) 18:38, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The first 2 paragraphs deal with events when Yusuf was a boy of seven or younger – shouldn’t these go into the 'Early years' section?
    That will leave only one paragraph before #Rule. Retitled the first section "Birth and his family's exile" instead. HaEr48 (talk) 18:38, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...returned Ronda. - ‘...returned Ronda to him.’?
    Done. HaEr48 (talk) 18:38, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why 'Finally'?
    Because presumably there is a period of time between attempting to use him for bargaining, before they finally returned him without getting the desired concession? 18:38, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Afterwards,… - this sounds as if the brothers were born straight after he arrived back.
    Changed to "Later"
  • this event is among the information historians used to deduce… - I would amend this to ‘this event has helped historians to deduce…’ or something similar.
    Updated. HaEr48 (talk) 18:38, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • On 26 June 1363, Muhammad relieved Yahya ibn Umar, the shaykh al-ghuzat or the Chief of the Volunteers of the Faith, a corps of North African soldiers fighting for Granada, from his post. - needs to be rewritten to make it easier to follow, possible by moving ‘...the shaykh al-ghuzat or the Chief of the Volunteers of the Faith, a corps of North African soldiers fighting for Granada…’ down to the next sentence.
  • the boy and two are redundant.
    Removed "two", but I think "the boy" serves to remind the reader of his age. I would have written the exact age, but his birth date is unknown. HaEr48 (talk)
  • ...longest reigns in the history of the dynasty. - could be simplified to ‘...dynasty’s longest reigns.’.
    Done. HaEr48 (talk)
  • At one point… - is vague. Is there a date available?

"*: No exact date but Vidal Castro mentioned it's around his age of majoriy. Mentioned. HaEr48 (talk) 18:38, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rule

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Family

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  • ...born slightly later. - this sounds as if they were twins.
    Changed to "not long after". HaEr48 (talk) 18:54, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...he was the father… - who was ‘he’?
    Yusuf (explained). HaEr48 (talk) 18:54, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Could you explain why Ismail III is not included in the list of Sultans at the bottom of the article. i.e. why he is a red link?
    For some reason not all sources include Ismail III in the list of Nasrid Sultans. Added a note to mentioned that (I haven't looked at Ismail III closely yet, so I don't have further explanations). It's likely that the person who started all the Wikipedia stubs, and the person who created the template worked from a source that does not mention him. HaEr48 (talk) 18:54, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would add a template for (r. 1370–1394), there another in the next section to add as well.
    Done. I was just worried that the user will get tired of the underline/tooltip in r.. HaEr48 (talk) 18:54, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Your worry, unnecessary as it is, has been noted. Amitchell125 (talk) 19:30, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Death

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Citations

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Oops. Amitchell125 (talk) 19:31, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On hold

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I'm putting the article on hold for a week until 17 October to allow time for any issues to be addressed. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 17:23, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Amitchell125, Thank you for your review. I've responded above, and let me know if you have more feedback. HaEr48 (talk) 18:54, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done

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...and it's GA. Great work as usual, HaEr48. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 19:35, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]