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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 December 2021

Malaysia (2012, 2016 and 2019, 2021)

Zakir Naik says he is not banned from giving talks in Malaysia - https://www.nst.com.my/news/crime-courts/2021/12/756985/zakir-naik-says-he-not-banned-giving-talks-malaysia Plutowriter123 (talk) 17:06, 24 December 2021 (UTC)plutowriter123 Plutowriter123 (talk) 17:06, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. - PianoDan (talk) 17:56, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Non-neutral language in first paragraph

I'm hesitant to edit the page without discussion since I know there's been controversy around the article, so I wanted to propose a couple changes to the lead for other editors to review. The suggestions are about the article's second sentence, which states: "Naik is renowned as a non-Arabic scholar, public orator, and scholar on comparative religion." The source is an award he won from the government of Saudi Arabia. Since government web pages are not neutral sources, I think we need to be wary of how it describes him. The two changes I suggest are:

  1. Change the word renowned to known, given WP:PEACOCK. The word renowned is also directly taken from the Saudi government source.
  2. Change the wording so to say "non-Arabic religious scholar and public orator who focuses on Islam and comparative religion." I think this phrasing avoids the suggestion that he has credentials in the academic discipline of comparative religion or publishes in scholarly journals dedicated to that discipline (the usual marks of being a scholar in an academic discipline). At the same time my wording doesn't dispute that he is a religious scholar/televangelist/apologist.

Let me know if there are any issues with this and if not I'll make the changes. Gazelle55 (talk) 22:54, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

@Gazelle55: Done. Wretchskull (alt) (talk) 08:51, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Zakir Naik (born 18 October 1965)

Zakir Naik (born 18 October 1965) 202.94.165.85 (talk) 13:40, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

The misspelling of his name

I noticed that the person's name was spelt "ज़किर" (zuh-kir) instead of "ज़ाकिर" (zakir) as it's meant to be spelt. could someone insert the "आ" vowel between the 1st 2 letters.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.75.45.165 (talk) 14:33, 26 July 2016

Zakir Naik says to the media that he has never been banned from giving a speech in any Malaysian state.

In this article, Zakir Naik said that he has never been banned from giving a speech in any Malaysian state. But in the controversy section of this article it is mentioned that he was banned from giving speeches nationwide. Should I remove these lines in the article or anything other? Grabup (talk) 15:29, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

A statement from state officials (police) on his ban can certainly be trusted over information provided by Naik on his own status, which is extremely WP:PRIMARY. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:45, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Is he a doctor?

Is he really a doctor? First in his lectures he makes basic mistakes on medical matters.

But, he seems to have done his degree, but there is no evidence that he did the internship further training and board exams.

This being the case, he isn't a physician. Rustygecko (talk) 12:28, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

No, since we have no reliable source stating that he ever practiced medicine in a professional setting, we cannot definitively say that he is a trained doctor. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:43, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

If you listen to his lectures and the things he says about medicine it is very clear that he doesn't have a degree in medicine. Is there any reliable source for his qualifications? Rustygecko (talk) 21:20, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Concerns about Article

I hope everything is going well for everyone. I've decided to leave a comment today because I'd like to express my concerns about the current state of the article. Although the article contains mostly accurate information, unfortunately, the structure is very poor. I need as much help as possible to save and improve this article through restructuring, and any help is greatly appreciated. Xpërt3 (talk) 04:30, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 October 2022

I request to do a revision and a correction of many terms of this page, because I have seen many errors in the page so i request a perm of edition of this page. Thanks Endpro87 (talk) 09:20, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. @Endpro87: ~~ lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 10:20, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Murad

hi Marufa Sultana (talk) 17:12, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

He is a Salafi. Please add this info .

He is a Salafi. Hence the first paragraph should be changed to as follows :

Zakir Abdul Karim Naik (born 18 October 1965) is an Indian Islamic televangelist and public orator who focuses on comparative religion.[1] He is the founder and president of the Islamic Research Foundation (IRF) and the Peace TV Network.[2][3] He is a Salafi.[4] Neutralhappy (talk) 22:20, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Xpërt3 You may be good at making this change. Please make this change. Neutralhappy (talk) 22:41, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Sure, I will add it at the top of the page. Xpërt3 (talk) 01:30, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Dr. Zakir A. Naik". Retrieved 27 April 2021.
  2. ^ "Zakir Naik and the Islamic Research Foundation". Da'wa and Other Religions. Routledge. 2017. doi:10.4324/9781315167015. ISBN 978-1-315-16701-5.
  3. ^ "All you need to know about Zakir Naik – Who's Zakir Naik?". The Economic Times. Retrieved 14 January 2021.
  4. ^ Rizvi, Uzair Hasan. "Muslim clerics in India unite against superstar televangelist Zakir Naik". Scroll.in. Archived from the original on 28 January 2023. Retrieved 2023-01-28.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 April 2023

Age: 63 2A01:36D:1600:6C95:3568:9354:3409:CB5F (talk) 04:06, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Tollens (talk) 07:53, 1 April 2023 (UTC)