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Did you know... that the Urdu novel Zameen provides a woman-centric account of Pakistan's independence?

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The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 18:55, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the English translation of the novel Zameen is titled A Promised Land?
Source: "A Promised Land, translated by Daisy Rockwell ... Khadija Mastur's posthumous novel Zameen ..." [1]
- ALT1: ... that the Urdu novel Zameen provides a woman-centric account of Pakistan's independence?
  Source: "Its value is historical as much as literary, as a woman-centric account of Partition and its aftermath ..." [2]

Created by Idell (talk). Self-nominated at 21:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC), inserted ALT1 at 14:53, 13 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

This article requires considerable work before becoming eligible. @Idell: You could improve the article by adding a brief plot summary, reception section, characters, analysis etc. Currently, it is very small article which ineligible for DYK. --Gazal world (talk) 09:11, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gazal world: Sure, but the article will become older than seven days, will that be an issue? Idell (talk) 10:33, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Article history says that the article was created on 27 Feb, and was nominated for DYK on 4 March. So it is OK. P.S: The hook is just a random fact. Improve the article, and find out some interesting hook. --Gazal world (talk) 10:49, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I suggested that hook as Barack Obama wrote a book with the same title – A Promised Land (2020). Idell (talk) 12:27, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Idell: It is very common title for several books. There is also a English version of Gujarati novel by the same title. I would suggest you propose new hook something like Narutolovehinata5 suggested. It would be good if you remove the Urdu script and use Roman Urdu where needed. --Gazal world (talk) 14:11, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A hook about the novel being described as "a political allegory and a gynocentric historical account of Pakistan's independence" could work, the issue is that the source cited does not actually use the term "gynocentric". Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 14:46, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: The source uses the word 'woman-centric', so 'gynocentric' is OK. --Gazal world (talk) 22:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reading through the Wikipedia article for gynocentrism suggests that it is a much more problematic and less positive term than woman-centered, and I would therefore recommend avoiding its use in the hook. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 03:44, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

With my unfamiliarity with the word I think it would be a good idea to stick with simply "woman-centric", simply because it's the word that is used in the source. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 04:50, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Given that concerns have been raised over the term "gynocentric" here's a slightly reworded version of ALT1: ... that the Urdu novel Zameen provides a woman-centric account of Pakistan's independence? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:12, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The nomination is ready to promote. Full review needed. --Gazal world (talk) 06:23, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Doing... New, long enough, well cited, neutral, no copyvio detected. ALT0 is generic so I find ALT1 better. Hook cited (I changed gynocentric to Women-centric in article to reflect the hook). No images. -Nizil (talk) 07:19, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pass. New editor so no QPQ needed. Please keep contributing to Wikipedia. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 07:27, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is my first review since Yoninah's demise. In his remembrance. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 07:27, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]