Talk:Zodiac P.I.

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Review: November 6, 2015. (Reviewed version).

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Did you know... that in the mystery manga series Zodiac P.I., teenage detective Lili Hoshizawa uses astrology to solve cases?

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I have added this page to the anime and manga WikiProject, because it really could use some fleshing out, and maybe a bit of tweaking for the wording here and there. My main concern is that I lack the sources to verify the name of the magazine that Zodiac P.I. originally ran in, and do not know if Natsumi Ando has any other published manga works other than Zodiac P.I.. I also don't know if there are that many references or allusions to other works either Japanese or non-Japanese, in the manga. If anyone can provide this information, I would be very happy! Additionally, once I've dug up my copies of the graphic novels, I was thinking I could provide very brief summaries for the various chapters or for the graphic novels, ie cover the important plot and subplot events (such as the introduction of Sirius), character introductions (such as those of Hiro's sister, the various Zodiac spirits from the Star Ring, and so on), etc. There's only four volumes total (and it's a completed series, too), it's a recent series, so it would not be too difficult, just slightly time-consuming. If anyone else would also like to contribute in that way to ease the workload, it would be much appreciated! - RW 63.21.55.118 03:12, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added an info box, it ran in Nakayoshi according to this page at KodanClub.com. I don't know when it ended. GracieLizzie 17:26, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I figured it would be something like Nakayoshi, as Nakayoshi is owned by Kodansha and publishes magical girl and shoujo stuff, but wasn't nearly sure enough of which Kodansha magazine ran it to put any info in. Thank you VERY much for adding the picture and info box, too!

What I'll probably do next is remove the "genres" section in the article and move the other genre mentions to the info box, tweak the "Format" section to reflect the fact that it was published in Nakayoshi starting November 2001, and add a link to the Natsumi Ando article (which should really be marked as a Stub, and added to the Wikiproject, while I'm at it, since there's almost no info on it except her name and the fact that she's most famous for having written/illustrated Zodiac P.I. - frankly, I seem to recall more information than that being in the side-bars of the manga! I'm sure it'll be able to be expanded considerably, even if this manga was her first ever published work) from the info box. -RW 63.21.32.196 19:36, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would appreciate it if whomever keeps reverting the genres section in the infobox would stop doing so. While there is quite a bit of action and of course, a huge amount of the mystery genre, it is also VERY much a traditional shoujo Fantasy series - it has a magic ring with enchanted sprits, for example, and features mystically-created visions of key evidence for each case (in Lili's crystal ball), both clearly in the realm of Fantasy, and featuring very prominently in the story since Lili rarely solves a case without the use of the Star Ring (in fact, I can't recall any case other than the side-story about she and Hiromi in kindergarten that actually had her solving it without the ring). As for shoujo - please, the main character is by technical definition a magical girl, half the plot revolves around she and Hiromi's feelings for each other, and the original target audience was young girls; it's shoujo. Please do not revert my edit again, since I cannot argue that it would be anything but misleading to say that the series is anything but a combination of mystery, Fantasy, and shoujo. :) - RW 63.21.32.46 05:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Sources[edit]

http://www.mania.com/10-greatest-anime-detectives_article_121376.html Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 22:55, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/tankobon-tower/2003-09-10 Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 17:36, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Zodiac P.I./GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Tintor2 (talk · contribs) 20:40, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I, Tintor2, will review this article. It looks pretty good but there are some issues I would to see done before passing it to GA.

The reception section starts directly with a review. Try to start with a generalization like in the lead
Reception section: Most readers might be wondering "who is Jason Thompson?" Add if he is a writer or something like that.
~~Then there were some issues in the lead that I already touched so I shouldn't bother you.~~

Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 20:40, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What are the sources that verify the genres listed in the infobox and in the lead sentence? A source is important because this is one of the most common areas of original research within the topic area.
"is a shōjo (targeted towards girls) mystery manga series" is rather clumsily worded.

—Farix (t | c) 22:30, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Adding DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 22:34, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox doesn't need period unless it contains more than one sentence
"While solving cases, Lili eventually learns from Hiromi's elder sister, Megumi Oikawa, that Hiromi's allergy to girls resulted from her." Clarity on second her.
"who hates her as he believes that she kidnapped and injured his girlfriend" Clarity
"Lili's mother takes over her fortune-telling business" I thought Lili was a detective. What?

Hi everyone, and thank you all for taking the time to review and improve this article! :D I'll be able to address your concerns and make improvements within the next couple of days or so. Thank you for your patience. Best wishes, Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 02:25, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all for your input and patience. I've been feeling under the weather lately, and wasn't able to respond as quickly as I would have liked. @Tintor2: I think I've addressed all concerns now. Please let me know if there still are any areas you would like to see improved. :)

@TheFarix: I think I've fixed the genre issue, but I'm unsure of how to fix the lead wording issue you raised. While manga has become a widely accepted term in the English-speaking part of the world, shojo (and shonen, seinen, etc.) has not, and I very strongly feel that it should be defined, so as to not alienate readers unfamiliar with manga... or maybe less familiar than your average manga fan. What would you suggest?

@DragonZero:, thank you as usual for checking my stilted prose! I think I fixed points 3-4, but I'm not sure how to reword point 2. He got his allergy from Lili after he waited in the rain for her to show up, and she never did. Best wishes, Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 03:35, 5 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

About Farix's problems I wonder if could be solved like this. "Zodiac P.I. (Japanese: 十二宮でつかまえて Hepburn: Jūnikyū de Tsukamaete?) is a mystery manga series written and illustrated by Natsumi Ando. Appearing as a serial in the shōjo (targeted towards girls) monthly manga magazine Nakayoshi from the April 2001 issue to the January 2003 issue. The chapters were compiled into four bound volumes by Kodansha and published from November 2001 to March 2003."

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that! Ok. I'll try that, and see if it suffices. Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 20:55, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Upping to GA. Congratulations.Tintor2 (talk) 21:07, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]