Template:Did you know nominations/Al-Ma'mun al-Bata'ihi
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The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 23:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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Al-Ma'mun al-Bata'ihi
- ... that the Fatimid vizier al-Ma'mun al-Bata'ihi helped empower Caliph al-Amir, only to be imprisoned and executed by the latter?
- Source: Summary of the article sections 'Rise to power' and 'Downfall and death'.
- ALT1: ... that the attempts of Fatimid vizier al-Ma'mun al-Bata'ihi to construct an astronomical observatory led to rumours of his wanting to use it to predict the future or perform magics? Source: Halm, p. 139: "im Volk munkelte man gar, dieser habe mit Hilfe des Saturn die Zukunft zu ergründen oder Magie zu treiben versucht"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of Dollar
Improved to Good Article status by Cplakidas (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 143 past nominations.
Constantine ✍ 11:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC).
- Ooh, nice GA! Qualifies through that, and the article is in great shape and fully cited. No evidence of copyvio, and I think the first hook is pretty interesting. The QPQ seems good. However, the hook really does need a specific source - we would just need the specific page numbers of (what I assume) Halm & Brett for him helping al-Amir rise to power, and him being imprisoned & executed. Once we have that, it's good to go. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:17, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima: The article has a quote from Brett in the section 'Rise to power' (p. 253: "The relationship itself was one of alliance, in which the minister was entrusted as before with the responsibilities of government, in return for bringing the monarch out from his seclusion into the public eye"), and for the rest, Brett p. 257 ("[al-Bata'ihi] he had exchanged al-Afdal for the Caliph as his patron. Thereby he had placed himself in the position of ... a minister with full responsibility for the government, but one who was nevertheless dependent upon the favour of a monarch to whom he had restored the powers of the Caliph after their appropriation by Badr and his son...resurrected to prominence and power in the ceremonial routines redeveloped by al-Bata'ihi. To it, towards the end of 1125, the Wazīr fell victim."). Constantine ✍ 07:47, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good enough to me, and it seems these sentences are cited in the article. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima: The article has a quote from Brett in the section 'Rise to power' (p. 253: "The relationship itself was one of alliance, in which the minister was entrusted as before with the responsibilities of government, in return for bringing the monarch out from his seclusion into the public eye"), and for the rest, Brett p. 257 ("[al-Bata'ihi] he had exchanged al-Afdal for the Caliph as his patron. Thereby he had placed himself in the position of ... a minister with full responsibility for the government, but one who was nevertheless dependent upon the favour of a monarch to whom he had restored the powers of the Caliph after their appropriation by Badr and his son...resurrected to prominence and power in the ceremonial routines redeveloped by al-Bata'ihi. To it, towards the end of 1125, the Wazīr fell victim."). Constantine ✍ 07:47, 1 June 2024 (UTC)