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- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by — Maile (talk) 22:20, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
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Aurora Film Corporation
[edit]... that Aurora Film Corporation, established in 1906, was a travelling exhibitor showing films, magic and theater?
- Reviewed: Tamil Nadu Fire and Rescue Services
Created by Dwaipayanc (talk). Self nominated at 04:59, 11 December 2013 (UTC).
Barely long enough at almost 1700 characters. It's still too short, though. For example, there's information in ref 1, the book about Bengali cinema, about Aurora giving up production in the 1930s (p. 70). I also think that you should include a list of its productions, which can be garnered by all the sources. It's hard for me to believe that there's not more information you can include. There are also some typos that should be corrected before this article can appear on the main page. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 17:33, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks for the review. Regarding the info on the company's decreased interest in production in 1930s, thanks for that; I have now included that. Well, regarding prose length, I did not really find much more info that I thought was appropriate (of course, any other editor can add stuffs). And the prose length meets the DYK criteria. It may be possible to make a list of its productions (gleaning from different sources), but I don't really have the energy to do so :) If there was a readily-available list in some source, I'd be glad to include that (but could not find such a list so far). And my apologies for typos; it was indeed quite a few. I have tried to address those.Please check.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:54, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- You don't have the energy to create a high-quality article worthy of the main page, and worthy of this film company? This article may be long enough for DYK, but it isn't complete at all. For example, you could incorporate information from the ref 2 source, which has lots of details about Aurora's history. For reasons of completeness, I can't approve that this article appear on the main page. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 19:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
- First, I apologize for the delay. I have not been able to be online for the past several days.
- While I absolutely agree with you that this article (and any other article) can be improved a whole lot, I do not see "completeness" or wide coverage as a criterion for DYK (coverage is a criterion for GA and FA, of course). Please explain any DYK criteria that this article, according to you, does not meet. I will try my best to address any such issue. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:43, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
- No problem, I understand busyness. I dunno, I think that the criteria of being "within policy" could be interpreted to include comprehensiveness, even if it's not listed in the core policies for DYK. I think that when a source check brings up information that's been neglected, it fails that policy. I suggest that another reviewer look at this article to get a second opinion. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 22:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
- You don't have the energy to create a high-quality article worthy of the main page, and worthy of this film company? This article may be long enough for DYK, but it isn't complete at all. For example, you could incorporate information from the ref 2 source, which has lots of details about Aurora's history. For reasons of completeness, I can't approve that this article appear on the main page. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 19:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
New reviewer requested to render second opinion on issues raised by first reviewer regarding article's completeness—WP:DYKSG#D7 may or may not apply. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:51, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
I've added some more from existing sources to the article, and started a new section, Notable Firsts, giving some notability to the company. IMO the article is a solid "start" article for DYK and adequately outlines its history and accomplishments. Article is new enough, long enough, adequately sourced, no close paraphrasing seen. QPQ done. However, the hook is rather bland. Based on the new information added, what do you think about:
- ALT1:
... that the Aurora Film Corporation, founded in 1906, produced the first newsreel in India, as well as the first children's film?Yoninah (talk) 21:40, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for your effort. Yes, your alternate hook is more interesting, let's go with that.--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:51, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
OK ... but I can't sign off on my own hook. Could someone else finish off this nomination, please? Yoninah (talk) 22:18, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: Per article, the company produced first children's film "in India". That should be clearly mentioned in the alt. - Vivvt (Talk) 00:52, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- OK:
- ALT2: ... that the Aurora Film Corporation, founded in 1906, produced India's first newsreel and first children's film? Yoninah (talk) 09:44, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Length and sources are fine. The article meets the criteria. Good to good with the latest hook. - Vivvt (Talk) 19:00, 20 January 2014 (UTC)