Template:Did you know nominations/Bamidele Ali
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 22:04, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
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Bamidele Ali[edit]
- ... that Bamidele Ali became a specialist in 3D printing after his career in the Canadian Football League?
Created by BU Rob13 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:58, 25 May 2016 (UTC).
New enough, long enough, QPQ done, and overall within policy. The hook is properly formatted. The issue in this case is that the source for the hook is not a very reliable source. The prose of the bio used as a reference is not very good and the company's website seems like it is a very small venture that is trying to make itself appear to be a large company. The website tries to paint an overly-rosy view of themselves and employees and I think that a better, independent source is needed to support the hook. This is the text supporting the hook:
With years of experience in design, defining technology roadmaps, and creating new business models, his focus is now turned “dimensionally” on 3D printing. With advances in 3D printing his 7-year old son’s [Freedom Ali] ability to innovate will only be limited by his creativity, not by the tools at his disposal.
- The company's "About us" page cites the Wikipedia article for its product and I'll admit I checked the nominator's user page and contributions just to make sure this wasn't promotional (no apparent conflict-of-interest). Please either find a much better source or suggest a new hook. AHeneen (talk) 06:57, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
- @AHeneen: The relevant policy is WP:PRIMARY, which states "A primary source may only be used on Wikipedia to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge." The fact that he specialized in 3D printing is a straightforward, descriptive statement, in my opinion. He either works in 3D printing or does not, and the source makes it clear that he does. The statement makes no judgement on how important he is in the field (and I agree, that site is probably overblowing his importance by a good margin). There's really nothing else interesting in the article, unfortunately, so I really do think we should run with the unusual jump from football to an innovative technology. I added a single cite by DSM, by the way, to confirm he worked there as the director of additive manufacturing (which means 3D printing). ~ RobTalk 12:32, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
This nomination seems to have stalled. I agree with Rob that the citation used is sufficient for the hook statement that Ali is a specialist in 3D printing. Other hook facts are also covered by citations. Otherwise relying on AHeneen's review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:06, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
- Comments: Perhaps i worry too much, but is there a ref that would indicate that the CFLer and the 3D expert are the same person and not two guys with the same name, please? His LinkedIn profile doesn't mention football at all. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 21:29, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
