Template:Did you know nominations/Bloke (word)

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 05:46, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Bloke (word)[edit]

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... that bloke is a slang for a man?

Reviewed: Connie Ediss
Comment: This article is more than five days old, but I hope it's not too late.

Created/expanded by Green Cardamom (talk), PamD (talk). Nominated by George Ho (talk) at 08:43, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

— the hook's a little too basic for me. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 08:55, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

ALT 1: ... that bloke, a current slang for a man, started in the 19th century as a criminal jargon for a man of superior station?
ALT 2: ... that the use of bloke, a slang for a man, has inspired "First Bloke", the variation of "First Lady"?

Added above two alternatives in response to rejecting "too basic" hook. --George Ho (talk) 09:08, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

— ALT1. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 09:15, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Does that mean you prefer ALT1, or that only ALT1 is valid? It's an important distinction for someone who's assembling a prepare area, and the review is supposed to make clear which hooks are valid, i.e., supported and sourced in the article. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:57, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Note: the facts in ALT2 are supported by inline citations. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:26, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

The target article is currently in dispute with several editors arguing that it violates WP:WINAD. I believe it would be an excellent candidate for "Did You Know" at Wiktionary but not at Wikipedia. Rossami (talk) 20:51, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know if it is an intended sarcasm or seriousness, but there is no "Did you know" system in Wiktionary. --George Ho (talk) 20:56, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
  - Also the article has seen considerable changes since that discussion took place. Green Cardamom (talk) 17:10, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
    - Notwithstanding those changes, there is a suggestion from some editors at Talk:Bloke (including Rossami and me, and countered by Green Cardamom) that the article might not meet core policies, including WP:NOT and possibly WP:N. Cnilep (talk) 03:49, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
      - Those suggestions were made concerning an old version of the article. It since doubled in size and incorporated the suggestions from that discussion to some arguable degree. There has been no subsequent discussion about the expanded article. Feel free to do so, however. Green Cardamom (talk) 05:15, 6 June 2012 (UTC)