Template:Did you know nominations/Blood donation in Bangladesh
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 06:00, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Blood donation in Bangladesh[edit]
- ... that in Bangladesh, blood transfusion service became available in 1950 at the Dhaka Medical College Hospital?
Created/expanded by Sminthopsis84 (talk). Nominated by Northamerica1000 (talk) at 00:02, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Section "Other blood-donar organizations" is devoid of text and has a Dispute tag. Per DYK D6 Dispute tag, this needs to be addressed. — Maile (talk) 19:57, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- Updated: This matter has been addressed. Northamerica1000(talk) 05:53, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
- The issue raised earlier has been resolved. The article is long enough and new enough, it is adequately sourced, I did not notice evidence of close paraphrasing when I checked sources, and I find appropriate WP:RS support for the hook fact.
- I am concerned that the hook fact does not mean the same thing to me (a speaker of American English) as it appears to mean in the source. I read it as indicating that blood transfusions (a medical service) were first offered in Dhaka in 1950. I believe, however, that the source indicates that "blood transfusion service", meaning the system to obtain and manage the blood supply for transfusions, started in 1950. That's different! I think we need another hook that will be more clearly about blood donation and that will mean the same thing to speakers of different forms of English. --Orlady (talk) 23:06, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that in Bangladesh, blood transfusion service was started in 1950 at the Dhaka Medical College Hospital? (Per this source: [1].) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Northamerica1000 (talk • contribs)
- That revised wording has the same issue that I described above. Separated from the context (and definition of "Blood Transfusion Service") provided by the source document, I misinterpret the words in that hook to mean that the first blood transfusions in Bangladesh were conducted at the Dhaka hospital in 1950. Not only is that (apparently) an incorrect interpretation, but it does not lead me to expect the highlighted link to take me to an article about managing the blood supply in Bangladesh. How about these (also based on the same source):
- ALT2: ... that as recently as 2000, nearly half of the blood available for transfusions in Bangladesh came from paid donors?
- ALT3: ... that about half of the blood donations in Bangladesh are one-time donations for specific patients? --Orlady (talk) 15:19, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
- Here's a quote from the source Asian Journal of Transfusion Science, (which I've added an underline to):
| “ | {Blood Transfusion Service (BTS) is an integral and indispensable part of the healthcare system now. The priority objective of BTS is to ensure safety, adequacy, accessibility and efficiency of blood supply at all levels.[2] BTS in Bangladesh started in 1950 at the Dhaka Medical College Hospital. In the year 1968, three more blood transfusion centers were opened at Midford Hospital, Dhaka; Chittagong Medical College Hospital and Rajshahi Medical College Hospital. Later, blood transfusion Departments became operational in different hospitals. In the year 1992 the government constituted a committee called “Blood Transfusion Committee” to offer advice on the introduction of donor selection criteria, matters relating to blood safety and introduction of various tests and other technical issues. In 1976 the “Bangladesh Council of Blood Transfusion Service” was established to supervise and monitor improvement of BTS in the country. A postgraduate diploma course in Transfusion Medicine was started in Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujib Medical University (BSMMU), Dhaka in the year 1972 for manpower development." | ” |
- It seems rather straightforward. Perhaps you can further explain what's unclear about it. That said, I've added another alternate hook below. Northamerica1000(talk) 19:51, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
ALT4: ... that in Bangladesh, blood transfusion service in hospitals was started in 1950 at the Dhaka Medical College Hospital? Northamerica1000(talk) 19:51, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I have read the source -- several times. That was part of reviewing the article and hook.
- In the context of that source, it is clear that "Blood Transfusion Service" refers to the activities necessary to manage a blood supply for transfusions. I am not disputing the meaning of the term in the context of the source. Moreover, a Google search makes it clear that it has this meaning in the UK and most British Commonwealth countries. My concern is that the term "blood transfusion service" emphatically does NOT have that meaning for me as a native speaker of U.S. English. To my ear, "blood transfusion" refers very narrowly to the process of providing supplemental blood to a patient. Accordingly, when I read the hooks that you have repeatedly proposed, I interpret them to mean that supplemental blood wasn't provided to patients in Bangladesh until 1950, when the new practice was inaugurated at the hospital in Dhaka. That's a misinterpretation.
- I oppose the use of a hook that can be misinterpreted so badly by a large number of Wikipedia users. Accordingly, I have proposed other hooks that are supported by the article -- and cited to the very same source. I think the other hooks are valid and interesting. I guess I am being dense, but I don't understand why the nominator insists that his/her proposed hook is the only one eligible to be considered. --Orlady (talk) 19:47, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hello Orlady, and thanks for your suggestions and replying. Since there's some contention here regarding how my hooks may be interpreted, perhaps we can agree upon the ALT3 above you provided above. I support using ALT3 at this time. Please respond at your convenience, and happy editing! Northamerica1000(talk) 09:28, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
