Template:Did you know nominations/Călan steel works

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 10:08, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Călan steel works

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• ... that Romanian President Ion Iliescu highlighted progress at the Călan steel works in 1996, but that the unit he praised went idle a few years later?

• ALT1:... that Romania's Communist regime built a new neighborhood of apartment blocks to house workers from the Călan steel works?
• ALT2:... that scrap metal dealers who took apart the remains of the Călan steel works sorted and sold the metal on the works' grounds?
• ALT3:... that Romania's Călan steel works were modernized following the Great Depression and again after the advent of the Communist regime?
• ALT4:... that the horses carrying raw materials from the Teliuc mine to the Călan steel works in Transylvania were quickly replaced by steam-powered trains?
• Reviewed: Jorge Torres Vallejo

Created by Biruitorul (talk). Self nominated at 15:46, 13 February 2014 (UTC).

• Comment: The first hook seems like a political jab [violation of eligibility rule 4.(a)]. Hindsight is 20/20. Someone not using his real name (talk) 17:31, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
  • As nobody else seems willing to review this, and given that 99% of the text is based on foreign-language (Romanian) sources, I think I could review it myself. Give me a couple of days though. The DYK rules are incredibly complex. Someone not using his real name (talk) 09:25, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm a little concerned with the extent of close paraphrasing. The last three paragraphs of "Beginnings in Austria-Hungary" are translated almost word for word from the source cited and the same goes for the first paragraph of the "Communist era" section. Someone not using his real name (talk) 11:24, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

• Biruitorul asked me to look into it. Though I have to say that the close paraphrasing objection is a bit overzealous for such extremely routine factoids as were picked from the source, I note that it may have been entirely addressed by this edit of his. Someone not using his real name, can I persuade you to take a second look at the article as is now? Dahn (talk) 21:02, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
• Concerning the "political jab", it seems that the rules on that one keep changing -- plenty of hooks were approved in the past with much more embarrassing tidbits about the likes of heads of states. Some hooks are valuable because and when they are funny in this way. I think we are on a slippery slope here -- from the realm of BLP to the realm of PR-and-airbrushing. After all, if a newspaper could report this paradox, we could as well. Dahn (talk) 21:06, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

• I'm a bit buys with other stuff, and given than you two seem to agree, why don't you approve it? (Besides, I'm contemplating a DYK "... that Alan Greenspan was wrong about the economy... and still is?" [1][2]) Someone not using his real name (talk) 05:09, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

• Well, I was looking for consensus, but okay: all hooks verified, length okay etc etc. I want to suggest using this or similar as an image to go with ALT 2. Dahn (talk) 16:33, 21 February 2014 (UTC)