Template:Did you know nominations/Cathedral of Saint Demetrius, Craiova

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 23:42, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Cathedral of Saint Demetrius, Craiova

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• ... that the original Cathedral of Saint Demetrius in Craiova, Romania, formed part of the unwalled city's defenses?
• ALT1: ... that the old, crumbling Cathedral of Saint Demetrius in Craiova, Romania, was shut down for forty years before being demolished?

• Reviewed: Sandu Tudor

Created by Biruitorul (talk). Self nom at 18:58, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

• Date, size, hook all check out. I am AGF assuming that all content, inc. the hook, is referenced with the end-of-para references. I like the org hook more than the alt, although I'd suggest adding the word "original" to it (as it refers to the first of the two churches). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 20:44, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

• It is a hard and fast rule that all hook facts must have inline citations no later than the end of the sentence that contains them. There is a less hard rule that multiple sources be used (D12 of the supplemental rules): "Multiple sources are generally required, to ensure the article meets the general notability guideline." I think that a cathedral is probably notable even with this one source, though additional sourcing is welcome. However, the additional inline citations are needed. I agree with Piotrus that the initial hook is superior to the ALT1, and also about adding "original"—best at the start as "that the original"—but I would also delete "once": "in Craiova, Romania, formed part". BlueMoonset (talk) 03:46, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

• I find that rule terribly redundant — end of the paragraph should be clear enough, provided the paragraph is drawn from one source — but I realize this is not the place to challenge the rule, and so I've amended things accordingly. There are surprisingly few online sources on the cathedral, but I've added a couple I managed to dig out. I've also modified the hook as suggested. - Biruitorul ^Talk 14:15, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

• Hook modified and citations now inline; article now has three sources. Restoring original tick per review by Piotrus, but noting that main source-based content seems fine based on Google translate rendering of that web page. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:07, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• If I may add to that: I have verified the references, just for fun, and I can move this past AGF. The hook is verified by the source, especially this fragment: Craiova, scaun bănesc, chiar dacă nu a fost niciodată înconjurată de ziduri, a avut totuşi un sistem de apărare bine aşezat, plan din care făcea parte şi Biserica „Sfântul Dumitru“. (Even though it was never protected by walls, Craiova, the demesne of the Bans, still had a well-formed defense system, a plan [for defense] that included Saint Demetrius Church.) Therefore
• Dahn (talk) 07:49, 20 September 2012 (UTC)