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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:15, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
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Children's Museum, Siri Fort
[edit]... that the Children's Museum, Siri Fort, has a replica image, of the Pratihara period of 9th-10th century, Shalabhanjika (pictured) a voluptuous posture of a woman without hands sculpted from buff sandstone?
Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 07:39, 14 June 2016 (UTC).
![Replica image of s fasting Buddha](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Replica_of_fasting_Buddha.jpg/70px-Replica_of_fasting_Buddha.jpg)
- Non-reviewer's comment: More than the "voluptuous" women, which are plenty many in Indian sculptures, a hook related to fasting Buddha, which is rare, would be better. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:58, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Dharmadhyaksha Thanks for the comment. I have now proposed ALT1 hook of fasting Buddha.
ALT1 ... that the Children's Museum, Siri Fort, has a replica (of the original sculpture in Pakistan) of the Gandhara art of fasting Buddha (pictured) in skeletal form, from the 3rd century AD Kushan period? Nvvchar. 01:39, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- It's not unusual for a museum to have replicas; isn't what's interesting about this museum is that it only has replicas, because the goal was to show the visiting children the full range of Indian culture and history? How about this:
ALT2 ...that all the sculptures representing Indian art and history at Children's Museum, Siri Fort (Gandhara fasting Buddha pictured) are replicas built by university art students?- Taknaran (talk) 17:21, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:18, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that the Children's Museum, Siri Fort, has a sandstone sculpture of a woman in the buff? EEng 14:11, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
- I agree with the above ALT3 hook suggestion. Nvvchar. 01:30, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
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Overall: Passes DYK checklist. Good To Go. Did not detect any copyvio issues. Stuck out the other hooks, as I believe we are all agreeing on ALT3 as it seems simple and straight forward.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:23, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
- Not quite sure if this is the right way to check in at this point, but I would STRONGLY OBJECT to ALT3 as inappropriate. "OOOh, look, the children't museum has lewd statues" (one meaning of "in the buff") isn't a great hook to present. I'd like to suggest the following as more respectful of both the museum and the statue:
- ALT4: ... that the original of the sculpture of Shalabhanjika shown at the Children's Museum, Siri Fort has been called the "Indian Monalisa"? Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 00:12, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- "In the buff" means nude, not lewd, and a hook that grabs interest with a harmless double entendre is perfectly fine. That some perverts may be disappointed once they click is not our concern. EEng 00:31, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- You've just agreed that the implication is there. My question is, is this the best we can do in terms of a hook respectful of the museum and the time and effort that someone put into creating this article? Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 01:40, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- Of course I "agreed" it's there. It's supposed to be there (though it appears you've failed to get the "buff" joke -- search the article for the string buff, or follow the link in the hook). The idea of a hook is to be "hooky" -- attract interest to the article by intriguing the reader. Look, let's ask what the article's creator, Nvvchar, thinks. EEng 03:06, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- Agree with ALT4 The statue is not any female figure "in the buff" but a specific stylized historical representation of Indian women ("Salabhanjika") that is compared to a classical work of western art ("Indian Monalisa"). The purpose of the museum is cultural education for children, so those specific terms are more relevant. Dorevabelfiore (talk) 02:12, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- You've just agreed that the implication is there. My question is, is this the best we can do in terms of a hook respectful of the museum and the time and effort that someone put into creating this article? Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 01:40, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- "In the buff" means nude, not lewd, and a hook that grabs interest with a harmless double entendre is perfectly fine. That some perverts may be disappointed once they click is not our concern. EEng 00:31, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- ALT4: ... that the original of the sculpture of Shalabhanjika shown at the Children's Museum, Siri Fort has been called the "Indian Monalisa"? Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 00:12, 12 July 2016 (UTC)