Template:Did you know nominations/Crispus, Crispinianus, and Benedicta

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:17, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Crispus, Crispinianus, and Benedicta

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A fourth-century fresco of Crispus, Crispinianus, and Benedicta.

... that according to their martyrdom account, Crispus, Crispinianus, and Benedicta went to comfort John and Paul, only to end up buried next to them? Source: "Audito beatus Presbyter Crispus, quia constricti essent intra domum suam Joannes & Paulus; venit ad eos cum Crispiniano & Benedicta, ut eos confortarent. [...] Sepelieruntque eos in domo Joannis & Pauli, non longe ab ipsis." (Acta Sanctorum)
- ALT1:... that according to their martyrdom account, Crispus, Crispinianus, and Benedicta prayed to know where John and Paul were buried, and God revealed the place to them? Source: "Poscentes, ut aliquod signum Dominus [...] ostenderet eis de sanctis Martyribus, ubi fuissent sepulti: & manifestavit illis Deus, juxta desiderium eorum." (Acta Sanctorum)

Reviewed: Pangolin trade

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self-nominated at 11:58, 5 March 2017 (UTC).

All facts that support a piece of information in the hooks need to be individually sourced, by adding a relevant citation to the end of each sentence that contains information for the hooks. @Alekjds: I'll come back to continue the review. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 02:40, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

@Mary Mark Ockerbloom: Thank you. I've added the additional citations. — AJDS ^talk 12:01, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - Paragraph beginning "The reputed burial place" needs citation. Possibilities include The Churches and Catacombs of Early Christian Rome: A Comprehensive Guide by Matilda Webb. Another possible citation to add might be the 1890 excavation account. The hook facts can be accepted in good faith from the Latin (AGF); or you could cite additional English sources. (I googled some which seem to be in agreement.) Finally, you quote several English translations of Latin sources. If these are your translations based on the cited material, the following practice is recommended at Wikipedia:Verifiability: "In articles, the original text is usually included with the translated text when translated by Wikipedians, and the translating editor is usually not cited." If it's a published translation, it should be cited to the translator.
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - AGF; ALT is supported, if condensed in time; for ALT1, the article says the information was revealed but not how or by whom, the hook says "God revealed the place". The article should explicitly support that part of the hook information.
Interesting:

Image eligibility:

Freely licensed:
Used in article:
Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Nice work, gorgeous photo. I hope it will show up in a small size for DYK. Thank you for it! I quite enjoyed reading and reviewing the article. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 23:41, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

@Mary Mark Ockerbloom: Many thanks for the exhaustive evaluation and the further research re: sources, all of which has served to improve the quality of the article. I've improved the citations in line with your suggestions, and added a citation to the paragraph you mentioned (from Webb's book; the JSTOR article on the excavations wouldn't load for me for some reason). Also, the translations of the Latin, which are my own, I have supplemented with the original text from the Acta Sanctorum. Here's the diff to show what I've added or changed. If I've left anything unaddressed, please let me know. — AJDS ^talk 08:51, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Excellent! Thanks for the changes, and here's another citation in place of the one I mentioned that didn't work, I think you'll enjoy it.^[1]

^ di S. Stanislao, Passionista Padre Germano (September 1890). "The House of the Martyrs John and Paul Recently Discovered on the Coelian Hill at Rome". The American Journal of Archaeology and of the History of the Fine Arts. 6 (3): 261–285. doi:10.2307/496224. Retrieved 10 March 2017.

[1] S. Stanislao, Passionista Padre Germano (September 1890). "The House of the Martyrs John and Paul Recently Discovered on the Coelian Hill at Rome". The American Journal of Archaeology and of the History of the Fine Arts. 6 (3): 261–285. doi:10.2307/496224. Retrieved 10 March 2017.

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