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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by — Maile (talk) 22:48, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

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Crocodile farming in the Philippines[edit]

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Crocodiles in a farm the Philippines.

  • ... that in crocodile farming in the Philippines (example pictured), the practice of picking out the brains is one way of telling whether electrocuted crocodiles are surely already dead?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nominated at 21:21, 28 December 2013 (UTC).

  • Hook, length, date checks out. Photo is PD on commons. Good to go. --Soman (talk) 22:38, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment: I ain't sure if the hook is correct. "Telling" whether the crocs are actually dead is not the same as "ensuring" they are absolutely dead before further processing can continue. --PFHLai (talk) 02:49, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment. I looked at the article and decided it could do with a copy edit, so I took WP:BOLD and did it (and so have revised my comment here afterwards). The fact is – and always was – contrary to the article: the electricity only stuns the crocodile, not kill it (so it is not electrocution, which specifically means killing, as a portmanteau word from electro- and execution). Also, "example" and "the practice of" are superfluous. I suggest:
Si Trew (talk) 09:10, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
@SimonTrew:At least tabloids deliberately sensationalise. The press articles upon which this article is based, those in the Philippine Star, are badly written and unwittingly mislead because they are poorly researched and contain ambiguities. Most of the ones I've read are highly commercial. Use with a great deal of circumspection. -- Ohc ¡digame! 01:53, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Since the original hook has been questioned and subsequent hooks created, I think this needs a new reviewer to check the ALT hooks and also check areas apparently not reviewed originally, such as neutrality, close paraphrasing, reliable sourcing, etc. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:57, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
    • @AnakngAraw: I feel that it is not neutral. Croc farming in the Philippines is essentially about a one-firm industry, and the second section of this article reads like a promotional piece for JK Mercado, with a passing mention for "another company that also sells ostrich". Therefore, the section needs to be pruned.

      Yes, the hook is :interesting": The assertion about the killing methods is not verified, is from the press article that also reads like a promotion piece for Mercado. The part in question seems to have come directly from Mr Mercado. The slaughter may appear humane – it needs to to sell to LVMH – but I wonder if it really the case? Is cracking open a hard croc skull and decorticate it really humane? Another idea for hook is the death of Ortega, although closer examination reveals this to be a red herring as he died ten years after he stopped being director at the CFI. -- Ohc ¡digame! 07:29, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

  • On hold. As the nominator is absent an we are making no progress, I have started rewriting and expanding the article. -- Ohc ¡digame! 16:34, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
    • Review requested. The article has now been rewritten, and I believe it now satisfies DYK criteria. Previous hooks no longer can be used.

      ALT4 ... that meat from crocodiles farmed in the Philippines (pictured) can be found in adobo, burgers and hot dogs?

      -- Ohc ¡digame! 01:39, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

  • Date, length and hook all OK. good to go. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 11:35, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
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