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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Rcsprinter (discuss) @ 22:23, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

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Crown Duel

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  • ... that Jo Walton opined that Crown Duel was a book to "give to your twelve year old friends, and read it with your inner twelve-year-old eyes"?

5x expanded by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nominated at 21:47, 1 January 2014 (UTC).

  • I've never heard of this author or her series, but find the article fascinating. If you don't mind, I'd like to suggest a hook.
  • Thanks for the kind words! I love the hook you've suggested, and am perfectly fine using it. Ruby 2010/2013 14:34, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
  • I think this needs another review to check the hook Maile suggested. Ruby 2010/2013 17:53, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Ruby, perhaps you misunderstood. I wasn't doing a review. I was only suggesting an ALT hook. It would be a pretty insufficient review to just say the article is fascinating (and it is). Yes, you are correct in that this nomination needs a complete review, and both hooks checked. — Maile (talk) 01:14, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Sorry for causing any confusion! Ruby 2010/2013 01:17, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
That's OK. I think it's good to put that turn-around symbol up there in case somebody else thought I'd done a review. — Maile (talk) 01:21, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
  • The reason I have not reviewed this, is because I have never reviewed a book hook before. But no one else seems to be diving in, so here goes. Note, it will still take another person to verify ALT1, since I wrote that hook:
The following has been checked in this review by Maile
  • QPQ done by Ruby2010
  • Article created by Lauroragirl on August 14, 2007
  • DYK check confirms that 5X expansion began on Januray 1, 2014 and it now has 16,634 characters of readable prose
  • No edit wars, no dispute tags
  • Every paragraph (except the synopsis) sourced
  • Duplication Detector spot check found no copyvio
  • Disambig links tool found no issues
  • External links tool found no issues, but two sources that require subscription
  • Original hook is stated in the article and sourced
  • ALT! hook was written by this reviewer and needs someone else to review
  • The only outstanding issue is a different reviewer to check ALt1 hook. If that checks out, I believe this nomination is good to go. — Maile (talk) 20:37, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
  • ALT1 hook needs independent reviewer. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:52, 26 January 2014 (UTC)


  • Comment: I don't think Angelfire.com is considered a reliable source. --PFHLai (talk) 04:20, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
  • While normally I'd agree, Angelfire in this case is used purely for its collection of personal interviews and communications with the author of this work. Angelfire is not being used to support anything controversial. I should also add that no criticism of this source was raised during the recent (and very thorough) GA review either. Thanks, Ruby 2010/2013 04:39, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Also, the author gives a direct link to Angelfire on her website. [1] Thanks, Ruby 2010/2013 04:41, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
  • for ALT1. Thanks for the explanation. --PFHLai (talk) 12:08, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
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