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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 08:40, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
WP:BLPCRIME issues with hooks and article, none of which have been addressed

Death of Irene Garza

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Created by EricEnfermero (talk). Self-nominated at 05:00, 21 October 2016 (UTC).

  • The article is new: Green tickY
  • The article is long enough: Green tickY
  • The hook is interesting: Green tickY
  • The hook is referenced: Green tickY
  • The hook is below 200 characters: Green tickY
  • A google search does not reveal any copyright violation: Green tickY
  • The article follows most other important policies: Green tickY
  • QPQ: Green tickY
  • Article is good to go. Cambalachero (talk) 15:40, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Could we jazz up the hook?
  • ALT1: ... that the priest who heard the last confession of Texas beauty queen Irene Garza is the only suspect in her 1960 killing?
  • ALT2: ... that the priest who heard the last confession of Texas beauty queen Irene Garza is suspected of killing her? Yoninah (talk) 18:53, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
  • I thought about that but wasn't sure about the BLP unduly negative thing. I'll defer to your discretion on that. Thanks for looking at it. EricEnfermero (Talk) 21:42, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Well, he has been arrested and is going to trial. Calling on another reviewer to look at the alts. Yoninah (talk) 22:09, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
  • I prefer the original hook, as it is focused on the case itself rather than in either of the people involved, who are otherwise not notable. Cambalachero (talk) 13:09, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
  • The murder suspect is not notable??? Be that as it may, the first hook is a statement of fact, not a hook. Yoninah (talk) 22:16, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
  • I agree with Cambalachero that this nomination meets the DYK criteria of newness, length, neutrality and policy. The original hook is unsuitable, being a statement that A = A, and I consider both ALT1 and ALT2 are satisfactory. It is difficult to point to individual cited sentences backing up the hook facts, but they are covered by many of the sources on which the article relies. Good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:00, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Pulled from prep, discussed at WT:DYK. Hook was unacceptable per WP:BLPCRIME, and article would need considerable work for the same reason before even another hook could be considered. Fram (talk) 16:32, 5 December 2016 (UTC)