Template:Did you know nominations/Dollar Mountain Fire
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by CSJJ104 talk 17:44, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
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Dollar Mountain Fire
Sherman Creek watershed after the Dollar Mountain Fire
- ... that during the 1929 Dollar Mountain Fire (char pictured), 65 firefighters survived overnight being surrounded by fire by sheltering under a ledge?
- Source: https://www.doukhobor.org/pn-details56d0.html?rec=260
...found themselves cut off and encircled by flames. They found refuge underneath an overhanging rocky ledge where they huddled...
- ALT1: ... that fire behavior during the 1929 Dollar Mountain Fire (char pictured) was highly unpredictable? Source: Kurtz, M.V. (1941). "History of Colville National Forest History of the Colville National Forest Part II Page II-22 middle paragraph on Dollar mountain fire
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Oxtongue River
Moved to mainspace by Kevmin (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 355 past nominations.
Kevmin § 17:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC).
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
- Some grammar problems in the lead, the second paragraph of background, both paragraphs of the fire section, and the aftermath section.
| Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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| Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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| QPQ: Done. |
Overall: 
The hook seems a little too long, probably better like: "... that during the 1929 Dollar Mountain Fire (pictured), 65 firefighters survived overnight by hiding under a ledge?" But it's okay if you don't want to apply that. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 03:03, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- The shortened version removes that they were surrounded by wildfire flames, and thus makes the hook much more mundane. In this case the flames were bad enough in the area the men were that everyone outside that area assumed no one could survive them.--Kevmin § 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- The hook already states that it's a fire, but if you like, I'm also going to check if you fixed the grammar problems.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗03:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)- @TheNuggeteer: An event taking place in a 94,000–142,000 acres (147–222 sq mi) fire zone is not the same as an event like this happening at the fire line itself, having the "surrounded by fire" portion is important context. What grammar issues are you specifically seeing? (you know you are allowed to fix minor problems in articles you review right?) If you feel they are major, then inform the talk page or me so I can address them. Grammar (unless its completely unreadable English) is not a criteria that DYK noms are reviewed on, FYI.--Kevmin § 17:02, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Request new reviewer as @TheNuggeteer:has not responded for over 10 days.--Kevmin § 23:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: Was going to tick this off, however I physically cannot read WP:PARAGRAPHs of that length. Please split them up.--Launchballer 18:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I've sliced up the two biggest paragraphs in as sensible manner as I was able to. Take a read now.--Kevmin § 19:15, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Looks better, although each paragraph requires a cite and I've moved a couple back. I want to take a look at this with fresh eyes first. I do know that I can't see where the article spells out that all 65 crew survived, and that ref #6 is giving a 403 error.--Launchballer 14:45, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I've sliced up the two biggest paragraphs in as sensible manner as I was able to. Take a read now.--Kevmin § 19:15, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: Was going to tick this off, however I physically cannot read WP:PARAGRAPHs of that length. Please split them up.--Launchballer 18:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- The hook already states that it's a fire, but if you like, I'm also going to check if you fixed the grammar problems.
