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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:27, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

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E. Joy Johnson[edit]

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The Foreman of the J.A.6.
The Foreman of the J.A.6.
  • ... that E. Joy Johnson, author of the 1911 novel The Foreman of the J.A.6. (pictured), was among the first women in Wyoming to own a drug store? Source: Mrs. Lawrence Johnson Dies Here Saturday". Niobrara County Library ([1])
    • ALT1:... that the 1911 novel The Foreman of the J.A.6. (pictured) by E. Joy Johnson was illustrated by artist E. William Gollings? Source: Johnson, E. Joy (1911). The foreman of the JA6; a novel ([2])

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 16:25, 7 August 2017 (UTC).

  • Begin review Article is new enough and long enough. Not a stub. Article is neutral and well referenced. Image is relevant and under a free licence. Small adjustment to hooks. Both hooks are correctly formatted. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:05, 11 August 2017 (UTC) AGF on offline sources. No copyvios or close paraphrasing detected. Hooks are correctly formatted and have inline cite. The archive.org ref is dead to me but I verified that Gollings was the illustrator from WorldCat. The third image in the gallery appears to show the lynching of a black man. Both of the hooks are rather weak. Why not say something about the book being based on her experiences of running a ranch in eastern Wyoming? I will hold off ticking in the hope of a better hook. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:50, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Note: A QPQ review will be required for this nomination. All five exemptions have been used up on nominations either in Prep or on the Approved page. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:36, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
See my comments about the hooks above. Surely we can do better? Philafrenzy (talk) 22:23, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
  • "The third image in the gallery appears to show the lynching of a black man" no, is actually the same man you see in the other images, I suppose the husband, and he is alive in the final picture, so I suppose he survived the lynching. As for the hooks, I do not think the fact she was the first woman owning a drugstore in Wyoming (when it was a pioneers land) is weak... actually I like it very much, but what about
ALT2:... that E. Joy Johnson, author of The Foreman of the J.A.6. on her experience owning a ranch in frontierland, was among the first women in Wyoming owning a drug store? Elisa.rolle (talk) 23:00, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
I struggle to understand how owning a drug store in a particular state or being one of the first women so to do, not even the first, is remotely interesting or important. There's also no connection between the two parts of the hook. How about dropping that and just saying the book was based on her experiences of owning a ranch? I am sure people would be interested in what it was like to run a western ranch. (more interesting than a drug store probably!) I accept your assurances about the content of the picture. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:20, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
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