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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 03:59, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

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Elizabeth Williams Berry

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  • ... that Mother Berry got her nickname after she adopted a runaway child? Source: "Mrs Berry garnered her title of Mother from a judge in a Denver Court. He awarded her legal custody of a runaway boy" [1]

Moved to mainspace by Megalibrarygirl (talk) and Montanabw (talk). Nominated by Ritchie333 (talk) at 10:14, 13 July 2019 (UTC).

  • Comment: Berry was most famous for being a jockey who disguised herself as a man, and she also lived to be 114 years old. The adoption and nickname is an interesting but minor part of her life. But not a big deal if you want to keep it short. Ritchie333 Would you accept the following Alt1? Montanabw(talk) 06:51, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • ALT1 ... that Mother Berry, a jockey who rode disguised as a man, got her nickname after she adopted a runaway child? Source: "Mrs Berry garnered her title of Mother from a judge in a Denver Court. He awarded her legal custody of a runaway boy" [2]
I think the original hook is shorter and gets to the point, but I'll defer the decision of which one to use to the reviewer. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:35, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
I too shall defer to the reviewer. It’s not a big deal. Whatever interests readers. Montanabw(talk) 03:10, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Interesting life, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. Of the two hooks, I prefer ALT1, as much more unusual. How do you think of this, quirky, let readers find out:
ALT2: ... that Elizabeth Williams Berry was known as both Jack Berry Williams and Mother Berry?
please find a way to include the doubts about her birth date. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:35, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Prefer Alt1. ~ Winged BladesGodric 13:57, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
    She was known as Jack WILLIAMS, Gerda Arendt, may want to tweak that line. But that’s a cute hook too. I truly don’t care so long as it’s accurate. I think the longevity question is mostly on the talkpage as her stated age was accepted at face value in her own time... Montanabw(talk) 14:01, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
    Oops, thanks, fixed. Someone else would have to review that hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:18, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
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