Template:Did you know nominations/Equus (film)

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:36, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Equus (film)[edit]

  • ... that a few critics felt a more realistic portrayal of violence and horses in the 1977 film Equus lost some of the spirit‍—‌and even the realism‍—‌of the play?

Source: Roger Ebert gave the film two and a half stars, arguing the realism in actual horses and their blinding, "strangely enough, get in the way of the play's own reality' Roger Ebert, "Equus," Rogerebert.com, 9 November 1977, URL accessed 23 October 2016.; Welsh also felt the explicit blinding was "potentially repulsive," and "much of the spirit of the play is lost as a consequence." Thomas L. Erskine and James M. Welsh, Video Versions: Film Adaptations of Plays on Video, Greenwood Press, 2000, p. 112.

    • ALT1:... that the 1977 film Equus featured real horses rather than the masked men seen in the original play, but Roger Ebert said this was less realistic?

Source: Roger Ebert gave the film two and a half stars, arguing the realism in actual horses and their blinding, "strangely enough, get in the way of the play's own reality' Roger Ebert, "Equus," Rogerebert.com, 9 November 1977, URL accessed 23 October 2016.; In stage productions, the horses are portrayed by human actors, often muscular men wearing tribal-style masks. Richard Harland Smith , "Equus (1977)," Turner Classic Movies, URL accessed 24 October 2016.

5x expanded by Ribbet32 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:46, 23 October 2016 (UTC).

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  • In ALT0, it should be "the realism", not "the reality". In ALT1, it should be "less realistic", not "less real". Yoninah (talk) 19:23, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Fine with those adjustments. Ribbet32 (talk) 19:35, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Full review needed now that hooks are set. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:44, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
  • New enough/long enough (5x expanded from the bot's calculation). There was one part that seemed kind of like close paraphrasing, and I changed a word to make it less similar to its source. Article appears neutral (I didn't check offline sources), QPQ done, no pictures with the nomination. I don't understand exactly what the EngvarB template is referring to--I didn't see any inconsistent regional spellings. I'm not sure if the "reality of the play" and "the play's realism" are interchangeable; I understand that it sounds "hookier" to use a contradiction, but I prefer something more straightforward. I suggest
  • ALT2:... that the violent horse-blinding scene in Equus detracted from the film’s psychological themes, according to some critics?

but if you really like the other hooks, I prefer ALT1. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:53, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

  • Thank you Rachel Helps (BYU), is "ALT3:... that several critics felt more realistic depictions of horses and violence in the 1977 film version of Equus detracted from the spirit of the play?" a viable compromise? Ribbet32 (talk) 00:14, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
    @Ribbet32: Yes, that sounds good. I still think "realistic depictions of horses" is a little unclear, but "use of live horses and realistic violence" isn't any shorter. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:44, 22 November 2016 (UTC)