Template:Did you know nominations/Flaying of Marsyas
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:09, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
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Flaying of Marsyas[edit]
Flaying of Marsyas, 1579s
- ... that Titian's Flaying of Marsyas (1570s) shows a satyr being skinned alive by Apollo, and was once the prize in a lottery? Robertson, Giles, in Jane Martineau (ed), The Genius of Venice, 1500–1600, 1983, Royal Academy of Arts, London (cat #132), but the first part covered online here
5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 15:30, 12 August 2017 (UTC).
- @Johnbod: New enough, sourced, neutral, no copyvios detected. Nice hook! The part about the lottery needs to be cited inline. Not totally necessary, but any chance you could include here a few lines of the cited text, since it's offline? Minor (non-DYK related) issues:
- 1) Third paragraph in the lead has two uses of ", and" in the same sentence.
- 2) Language tends towards the conversational, as opposed to the encyclopedic (e.g., "The painting . . . was rather forgotten about"; "the superb collection"; "But this is not a very direct influence on Titian's composition.")
- 3) This sentence is funky: "Andrea Schiavone's Judgement of Midas of c. 1548–50, in the British Royal Collection, is interestingly comparable to Titian, at least in atmosphere, yet earlier." Not sure what "interestingly comparable" means, and "at least in atmosphere, yet earlier" is clumsy. Something like "Painted earlier, the atmosphere in Andrea Schiavone's c. 1548–50 work Judgement of Midas has an atmosphere comparable to that in Flaying of Marsyas" could work instead.
- 4) Second paragraph in "Technique and style" is missing a close quotation mark. The paragraph should also clarify that it's talking about Penny, since he is only mentioned in the preceding paragraph. --Usernameunique (talk) 11:07, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- google search?q=Titian+Marsyas+lottery. I've addressed the other points. Johnbod (talk) 11:30, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: Interesting. Another site says that the lottery was a failure, and ended in a sale, but as a blog it doesn't really count as a reliable source. The article still needs a citation following the sentence saying it was acquired via lottery (since it's in the hook), and then you're good to go. --Usernameunique (talk) 11:39, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- Added. Yes, I'd like to know more about the lottery, but the plain statement is well-referenced, & I can't access anything with more at present. Actually, I'll add a note, since Shafe may be correct. Fortunately, the hook as phrased is unaffected. Johnbod (talk) 11:43, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
@Johnbod: Looks good! Did you mean to put the PhD announcement as the URL in the note, or the blog that talks about the lottery? --Usernameunique (talk) 12:02, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- Added. Yes, I'd like to know more about the lottery, but the plain statement is well-referenced, & I can't access anything with more at present. Actually, I'll add a note, since Shafe may be correct. Fortunately, the hook as phrased is unaffected. Johnbod (talk) 11:43, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: Interesting. Another site says that the lottery was a failure, and ended in a sale, but as a blog it doesn't really count as a reliable source. The article still needs a citation following the sentence saying it was acquired via lottery (since it's in the hook), and then you're good to go. --Usernameunique (talk) 11:39, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
